What advice would the veterans give the young guys involved in this hobby?

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I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
 
I donโ€™t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. Iโ€™ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. Iโ€™ve known her for a few years and sheโ€™s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, Iโ€™ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.
 
I donโ€™t know how you can afford to eat and hobby on 55k. I would say save your money for property. I am on the high side of 250k and I still resent what I spend every month on the hobby. Iโ€™ve stopped almost entirely, only going to a fully legit lady once a week. Iโ€™ve known her for a few years and sheโ€™s the only one truly worth it. Spend your disposable income on something more constructive. Btw, Iโ€™ve been in the scene almost 4 decades.
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
 
well i live with my parents lol. my expenses are mainly my phone bill and presto card, and my job lets me work from home 3 days a week so i barely have any transportation expenses. lol i keep about 90% of my pay
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.
 
Dont make friends with Krayjee and his 40 + handles.

The man is a Sociopath.

Lol are you peter66? whats up with people accusing others of being 1 person. you know this is the internet right ursus. alot of people have access to this stuff. me being krayjee is as true as you having a chinese wife.

LoL @krayjee am i doing it right?

Lord John
 
Buy property as soon as you are able. Trust me on that.

yep my parents said they'll help me with a down payment when i have enough to buy a place. this hobbying eats up about 200-500 a month which isnt much for me considering all my other expenses are low
 
Krayjee,

Go outside and make some friends.

It will help you tremendously.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can?
Your income typically goes up as you get older, but your cock won't work as well later on. Hobby as much as you can within your budget and schedule, while you still can.

And yes this hobby will change the way you look at girls moving forward. Civvies typically aren't as skilled in bed as professionals.
What would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.
Carry extra cash and an extra condom...
 
Dont wait for any prostitute.

Once she starts to delay the appt, leave and go fuck another whore.

And no 2nd chances.
 
only one of my friends in real life knows of my hobby participation and i tried to rationalize with him why i left my girlfriend and how this will make up for it, and he said it was a genius idea lol. he told me he'd do it as well if he had a good job. if your young making good money why stay tied down to 1 girl when you can go fuck a new one every week? maybe when i get more serious i will get back into a relationship in 2-4 years but i think i'd rather have some fun now and enjoy this time while it lasts
 
Do a lot of introspective reflection to watch for addiction. It's easy to get addicted. When you start feeling anxious and need to see a girl just to get off, that's a sign of addiction. Also, don't fall in love. Easiest is to do what you set out and see a different girl every week. But, eventually, you may start seeing a few regularly. So watch your emotional reactions.

55k a year is peanuts. Listen to Peter666 and others. Even if you living at home, save your money and buy property. Houses are freaking expensive these days. I really don't know how young people are expected to buy anything.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I started with one massage a month and moved up; sometimes I go 3-4 times a week.
do the math is a ton of money per year, I went from $1,200.00 at the beginning to a $24,000.00 last year

Yes, you have the "memories" but hey, you can't buy an ice cream cone with that.
Yes, this habit ruins your head, your perspective of women, your outlook on life

My Advice: Walk away from this fucking, disgusting hobby,
Save your $$$, set a target, buy a house, move in, then buy a second home, rent it
Pump you money into RRSPs, pay off your debt, pay off your CCs, you will see you have little money left to waste after covering all your expenses.

distract your self with other activities, travel, movies, family.

When you feel the urge to visit the whores. put the money into your savings. Once you see your money growing you'll want to make your stash bigger and bigger.

Walk away while you can
 
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Remember that these girls are PREDATORS. They see you as a MARK.

The only thing they want from you is your MONEY.

So, hobby close to home, for they will undoubtably play games on you and waste your time and travel costs. If you hobby close to home, you can lessen these costs. Trust me 100% - they will screw you around by bumping you, making you wait, flaking on you etc. They will try to cut corners during the appt, make excuses, lie and cheat/scam you out of your money.

Reduce your risks by playing smart.

No mattery what a Whore says to you, dont believe it. They Lie for a living, same as a politician does. They aren't your friend and they dont even care 1% about you as a person.

I have had Hookers try to threaten me with Police attention, claim I assaulted them, claim I threatened them etc. And in every case, I wasnt even in any contact with the girl whatsoever. They just make shit up right out of thin air in order to please their own devious emotions.

You have to be super careful when you interact with these Predators.
 
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Well... I started in the late 70's going to strip bars, then the internet came BOOM the whole industry changed...strip bars basically became your early body rubs. Then the massage parlours came about... topless at first then well everything. Then SP's became the norm. My advise to the new hobbiest would be to set a firm budget or you will be in trouble fast, also always use a cover even for a PS. Believe me if you don't it can change your life in a hurry.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.
 
I won't bore you with the whole "save your money and invest in property" crap because it all goes without saying. I'm doing fine now but was able to do this hobby when I was broke because we all need a few vices in life and going to MPs is better than drinking or smoking weed. Set a budget, find a few regulars and limit that list. I've never been the adventurous type but I've noticed that seeing one woman has considerably shrunk my budget as opposed to the time that I had to stash away several thousands of dollars on a bunch of 40/45-minute sessions so I could try as many girls as possible every week. Now I can get more out of this hobby by having unrushed 90-minute or 2-hour sessions twice or more a month with someone I trust. I suggest that you treat this hobby as a fantasy and not a means of attaining sexual gratification. Fuck! You're young! Use Tinder for sex! Let the fantasy from your MP experiences inspire you to find the right woman.

I think I've just come around to this way of thinking. Reading these message boards and looking at the profiles of different girls, it makes the imagination run wild. I desperately wanted to try them all out and I've been going really hard lately, recently I went every fucking day for a week and even twice on one day. I actually got burned out, I thought what the hell am I doing this is supposed to be fun. I took a break for a week and had a 90 min session with my regular and it was perhaps the best session I've ever had. I guess I just had to get it all outta my system. Quality over quantity from now on.
 
I'm relatively young - fresh out of uni and working downtown making 55k+.. and ive been noticing ever since i started working fulltime and had quite a disposable income that ive been looking at more expensive SPs - moonwaiting/icandy4u escorts. a bit more expensive than typical SPs but damn the experience you get for hh with those asian girls is crazy. however, i also recently broke up with my gf as i felt she required too much time from me and with how busy my work is now i somewhat prefer just dropping in on a weekend and seeing 1-2 ladies every week without having to deal with constant calls/texts/snapchats/DMs/all that bullshit relationships bring.

however, i feel like this is going to change the way i look at girls and relationships moving forward.. and cant help but think this is going to leave irreversible damage on my outlook on women lol. what would you veterans say to a younger guy who was accidentally exposed to this hobby a few years back? ditch it while i still can? what would you tell yourself if you could go back in time to your first encounter.

We all need some loving care from some of these beautiful ladies, I been doing this since my separation
7 years ago. Take your time and don't rush things and most importantly read the reviews it brings up
The wow factor. As time goes on you'll make friends if your a gentleman of course, I brought out countless
Ladies for dinner afterwards with no up charge. This is always nice after sex. And one lady and I went
Away for week down south it was great waking up to a naked curvy body beside you. I've had my fill
Of relationships and also being married for 20 years. I prefer this with no expectations or commitments just pure sex and laughs. And don't think paying higher is better, that is not the the truth. Im pursuing one
Firecracker right now that I found on twitter, she has the body of a goddess and the service to match.
I was blown away when she told me it was 280 for the hr. I was for sure thinking it was 400.
Btw you can find real gems on Twitter. That you can talk to privately.
 
don't fall in love

they don't love you and will not love you
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅSuki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  29. Double_Tree:
    โค๐Ÿ’ž4271 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹Thursday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฏSofia, tall and slim, experienced touch that will have you relaxed and feeling energized. ๐Ÿ’—โฃ Holly, tall with medium build . Pretty, has long brown hair. white skin, soft hands +. ๐Ÿ’˜ ๐Ÿ“ž 416 293-5071๐Ÿ“ž
  30. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Mia Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ64
  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, nice girl Mia Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  32. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Suki work
  33. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY:๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนFun Girl Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน .
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Phoebe, Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND PHOEBE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily,must try,amazing oil strong to relaxing massage,very friendly smile,bring you comfortable warm time,happy long weekend ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday May 15, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ, Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜ and Sophie ๐Ÿค—. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Gigi, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  41. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Philippine ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Canadian ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Indian girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  42. LittleMan:
    Best masage in Oakville/Burlington? Please recommend
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนyoung friendly Cici slim body ,backwalk,amazing ending ,bring you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  44. Spa in Markham:
  45. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  46. Pink Flower Spa:
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  48. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธIsabellaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’• Wednesday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณKajal 23, Punjabi girl ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE & bbbj โค๏ธโค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
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