Street vs. Clubs

Mark P

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If you are a American in a Mexican jail because you were caught with an underage girl. You have a 99.9% of getting killed in those Mexican jails or prisons. That's reality. So be carefull.
The US jails are like a college campus compared to the Mexican jails.
 
And look what happen to Sampson. It's easy to talk bs on the board. I bet you will chit your pants if you are ever get caught with an underage SG. They will turn you in to the US authorities.
 
Oh yeah, many of them are under age. So be carefull if their ever is a sting.
 
the theory is that the mongers create the demand.

and the Swedish model of jailing the monger is gaining popularity. Nobody wants to hold the women (or girls) responsible for their actions because "we" accept that they're all victims of circumstances, powerless.

From the seventies on, most of law enforcement targetted the pimps. but that proved unsuccessful for two reasons : 1, the women wouldn't roll over on their pimps enough and 2, the pimps started developing a long term strategy of recruiting women when they're teenagers, take care of them, but don't put them to work until they're older. the pimps get the girls emotionally involved with them, as friends and lovers.

and that's been a remarkably effective and sick-schrewd strategy for them because the cops cannot recruit decoys under 18. and as a practical matter, not under 21. Let's face it: it's dangerous work.

so that leaves the mongers as the only targets left.

the upshot is that we shouldn't pay young women for sex. period. pick one that's on the safe side, and, yes, ask for ID. it's serious. it's your freedom at stake.
 
There is no circumstance under which a monger can legally "bang non-working girls 16-17y/o."

About a year ago the the age of consent in the corruption of minors act was changed from age 16 to 18. There's an exceptions that applies to those invloved in an "honorable relationship" with a minor. An honorable relationship means you are legally married to the girl or the girl's parents have given premission for a formal engagment.

Note Well: It is a felony under both US and Mexican law for US resident to have sex with a minor while visiting Mexico.
 
I am not advocating sex with minors. How is the monger to blame
for anything? The question is, how are we to know how old
these chicas really are? It is fairly easy to obtain a fake ID
in mexico, especially if you are a hot, young chica. If a girl told
me she was 16,I would never take her upstairs. The fact is girls
are looking older and if she said nothing why is the monger to
blame?
 
I'm reliably informed that it doesn't matter. Anyone under 18 is no go.

the reason has something to do with International Law. Evidently, there are only two conventions to which virtually every nation in the world agrees: (1) are the conventions against torture, which nobody pays much attention to and (2) the agreements against human trafficking, which every nation is sensitive about, especially those like Mexico whose sensibilities are frequently offended by US/European self-righteous do-gooders.

But as far as the international police are concerned (interpol) girls under the age of 18 involved in sex work are presumed to be victims of human trafficking.

And Mexico will yield, if not assist in the prosecution.

thank god older women turn me on. I pity you guys who can't get off on big juicy pussy. but there you have it: the big pussies have written laws that prohibit you from chasing their competition.
 
some help here...

I thought ageofconsent.com had the legal age in Mexico at 12, but the legal age to be a prostitute is 18??? Is it legal to bang non-working girls 16-17y/o in mexico or not?
 
Well Mr Brant, you better care about the age factor. as its criminal on both sides of the border ! And you dont want to get caught inadverntently ! As noted by Fireballs, Burt, Sampsonrico and Kitty freak, there are serious consequences to face. This doesnt mean to frighten you, you dont go to the SG route anyway. But if you do, you should be aware of it. One can bribe in most places, but sometimes there is more penalty to pay than the bribe.
 
Underage chicas is a bad topic I like to avoid. If you get caught you can probably count on the cops at least emptying your ATM and credits cards if your carrying them, and then you would be considered getting off lucky.

I highly doubt you'll be killed in prison for mistakenly or on purpose having a session with a slightly underage chica 16, or 17, you might even get sympathy from other inmates saying 'what a tough break!' Now if the underage girl was 5 years old,then you might be KILLED? [ I don't know for sure because I never been in a TJ prison, and plan on keeping it that way]

It's not worth the risk in Tijuana, besides there are a lot of nice young 18, 19 year old girl on the north side of the alley who wear little school dresses with small tits and high heels that will help you fulfill your high school sex fantasy. In fact I just did one on my last visit to TJ about two weeks ago, damn I already forget her name, but Flor comes to mind who also works there, and Vicky a innocent looking girl who always wears a dress accross the street.

The dangerous areas on on lower Constitution where some of these girls just look too young, but say they are 18. There are certain hotels a little outside the zona you should avoid too. I forgot the name, but probably wouldn't post it even if I remembered it.
 
Soliciting an under age prostitute is a big deal here. I know someone that did get caught and his family paid in excess of $30,000 to get him out of jail...if they didn't pay he would certainly been killed...it is also in violation of US law to seek out minors(less than 18) for sex.

That being said, I know of no one that has been jacked up for a card carrying street girl....there have been stings with walkers before.
 
Who cares if the SG is uderage? You are in Mexico, land of the free.
Free to bribe the cops if you get caught. I have found the SG's
to be horrible in the sack, with a few rare exceptions. I usually
stick to bar girls depending on my mood. I do, dable the
occasional SG, If I see girls that I have been with before and I
know are not going to give me ten seconds of pleasure and then
say, "you finish yet?" The important thing is to learn from
the so called,"duds" . The BG's that are really hot usually
give poor service, but are good for the trophy fuck. Last
time I was in AB I saw this really hot blonde girl, probably
a solid nine. I sat there for an hour and watched her go
upstairs with three different guys in an hours time.
 
Are some of the street girls underage? I honestly don't know, but I don't think the streets are "filled with underage prostitutes" as is sometimes reported in the media. (As is well known, I avoid street girls; others are in a better position to answer the question.)

Street girls, like bar girls, must have a health card. Which means they must show proof of age. So the presumption is that they are of age. (It is often said, of course, that some chicas use false ID or the ID of a friend/relative to get a health card.)

I'm told the inspectors are actually more vigilent in checking street girls for health cards than bar girls. (They're easier to catch as they don't have a ladies room in which to hide or back door to escape.) So again the presumption is they are of age.

Something else to consider is the physical differences among the regions in Mexico. People in southern Mexico, for example, are often shorter than the average Mexican. Being short is sometimes perceived as being young. Many street girls appear to come from Southern Mexico and are shorter than average.

To avoid possible problems I look for chicas that appear to be over 20. That, hopefully, gives me a margin of safety.
 
I am far from a TJ expert- more like an experienced semi-regular- and IMHO this is very true about younger SGs. Be sure to ask the girls age and check ID if you have any doubts. You really do not want that kind of trouble in your life- morally or legally.
 
I for one think so, I remember someone mentioning on another post, that most SGs are younger compared to the BGs, it seems right if we walk down the SG lane and notice it. The SG experts like Larry and Fireball should better answer that.
 
speaking of being exposed to risk, though, I was reading on another board that a monger's chances of meeting an underage provider is significantly greater with SG's.

does that sound true?
 
Larry, you hit the nail on the head, "can have a spark", That just about sums it. It doesnt matter whether its a SG or a Bar SG, important thing is to have that spark going. And there are pros and cons definitely, in a bar one can sit and watch and try out but also be exposed to a "ficha fuck" scam. Whereas with the SG it is a wham bham Thank You mam kind of thing. One plus point with the SG is with 20 to 30$ you are not exposed to that much risk of dissatisfaction ! :D
 
Me too! On a good day I do BOTH SGs and BGs. In TJ they are so different that it is like being in 2 different places. The BGs are a few years older, taller, bigger boobs, blonder, and better in the sack. Many of the SGs are little spinners and closer to 18-19 yo- which I also like very much.
 
you get what you pay for, pretty simple. I find as long as I make clear exactly what I want, the sgs are well worth 20 bucks. Sure I've had a few duds, but as lousy as they were, it was still just 20 bucks.

I usually just get a bj from a sg to start off the evening and let a bullet out of the chamber before getting 1-3 bar girls later in the night.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  33. wilson holistic centre:
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  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Spanish ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MONA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06 1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  37. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Spanish ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  39. wilson holistic centre:
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  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLily Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Angela, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Lindaโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  44. DareDevil:
    SUNDAY SUPER LINEUP! ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Fun Girl Apple, New Pretty Girl Angela, RMT Grace, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY ARE ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ GRACE AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  45. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  46. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 2 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Lulu. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LULU is new. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3
  49. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. SHAYLA
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