Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

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Have you ever worked on someone that was just like a rock. I mean frozen, like maybe nervous or just the kind of person who can NOT relax.

So far in practicing with a couple of these type of people they end up making ME nervous and tense too. What can I do differently with these people? I try to go into it centered and relaxed but the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.
 


I had a few of these clients at the chair massage event I did with my class yesterday. I couldn't tell what was muscle and what was bone on some of them. They were like rocks, just like you said, and I had only 8-10 minutes to help them. I just tried to breathe, relax, and remind myself that these are the folks who need it the most! I used a lot of warming techniques and some rocking. In one case, fingertip tapotement actually worked a little. I wanted to take a few of those clients home with me, put them in a hot bath with epsom salts and apple cider vinegar for about 20 minutes, and try again on the table!

Kemilyna
 
Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

sandyrose said:
the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.

First of all, you need to let it go. If you are not in a relaxed state, this energy will carry over in to your massage.

Believe it or not, these people probably are relaxed. Or as relaxed as they are ever going to be. Not everyone is going to completely chill out and start snoring. Everyone is different. These people are probably very up-tight "normally" and they probably are as relaxed as they can be during the massage.

Just let them enjoy their "relaxation." Trust what you are doing.

Angie
 


Ditto Angie.

You cant take away 20 years of bad posture hunched over a desk 8 hours a day 5 days a week in one hour. Heck you may never take it away! Only they can, if it is possible at all. We can only assist them.
 


Hi SandyRose,

Yes, I have worked on people who are stiff as a board. I have noticed that part of me may start to get a little anxious about it, but I have managed to let my compassion take over during the massage.

I feel for those people. I may not know what their experiences have been that show up in their body like that, but I think they are doing the best they can. These are the people that need it the most and I give them credit for even coming in a getting a massage.

There is a fellow that I have worked on a couple times in the past month. He kept his eyes open the whole time while supine and was very stiff. I learned later that he's someone who has experienced civil war first hand in another country. He was a Colonel in the Liberian military. He lived through the violence of war for years. I think it's amazing that he can now experience nurturing touch after having experienced something so horrendous.

Just remember when you are massaging those people who are like a rock that they have most likely been that way for MANY years. It's going to take alot more than one massage or even YEARS of massage for them to relax. Believe that your massage is contributing to their well being and that it's making a difference to them.
 


Wow, let me say, do I understand where you are coming from, and you are not alone. This is probably one of the top topics we talk about at work.

One thing, like RM said, could be life things. I have a client like this who I believe had some sort of sexual abuse, and I believe someone told her to get massage to learn about good, positive touch. It does get hard and frustrating, but I try to think about these situations.

Sometimes, I don't think it is just tension like others are saying, I know what you mean, I think they simply can't relax (usually it's like someone's first massage type of thing). So what I try to do, it remind them to breathe, or if it's bad, I just do some rocking and tell them it's okay to relax, that I am going to do all the work, make a joke if I can, some people sometimes think they NEED to help us.

Realize too, some people don't even they realize they are doing it. I went in for a facial and she was doing massage on my arms, and she was like, RELAX!! :lol: I did it, and I hate when people do it!!! And...I thought I was relaxed! And again, lots of people tell me when I just tell them to relax, they laugh and say they thought they were!

So sometimes that will help, other people, it might just be a defense mechanism that they can't turn off. What I try to do is just do stuff without moving them too much so they don't have to "help" and just try to do relaxing, gentle strokes, very slow. It's usually by the end of the massage, but sometimes they do relax!! :lol:
 


I will say also that, as a "tense" client myself, instructing a client like this to relax or telling them that they seem tense can feel judgemental, like I'm doing something wrong. I try instead to say things like "I can feel that shoulder starting to release" or what have you -- planting the suggestion that their body can do it. Or if they are a repeat client, noticing something, anything that is more relaxed than last time, and mention their progress.

Sometimes you will see the opposite problem -- a person whose tissue is very soft and relaxed, but believes they are tense. These people are just as hard to work on, because no matter what I do, they perceive themselves as needing to relax, they feel their tissues "tight" even when they are not. I have not come up with a great physical solution, although as someone mentioned above, compassion helps me get through the session.

There is an old thread on this topic that I'll try to dig up.
 


naked eye said:
Sometimes, I don't think it is just tension like others are saying, I know what you mean, I think they simply can't relax (usually it's like someone's first massage type of thing). So what I try to do, it remind them to breathe, or if it's bad, I just do some rocking and tell them it's okay to relax, that I am going to do all the work, make a joke if I can, some people sometimes think they NEED to help us.
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So sometimes that will help, other people, it might just be a defense mechanism that they can't turn off. What I try to do is just do stuff without moving them too much so they don't have to "help" and just try to do relaxing, gentle strokes, very slow. It's usually by the end of the massage, but sometimes they do relax!! :lol:

(nod) I tell people to take deep breathes and to focus on their breathing and if they're "helping" with passive movements, I try giving them some imagery, like "let your arm be heavy and floppy, like a bunch of wet rags" or "let your leg fall out to the side, giving me its weight." Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, I try to use a different technique or I just give up on passive movements!

naked eye said:
Realize too, some people don't even they realize they are doing it. I went in for a facial and she was doing massage on my arms, and she was like, RELAX!! :lol: I did it, and I hate when people do it!!! And...I thought I was relaxed! And again, lots of people tell me when I just tell them to relax, they laugh and say they thought they were!

I try not to tell people to relax, because I hate it, too! Some people get MORE anxious if they feel like they can't relax, because they're not doing it "right." I try to remember to use positive, encouraging phrases, like complimenting good deep breathing: "good breathing!" or "beautiful breath!" And flood my thoughts of positive, non-judgemental things, too. If they seem like they can't relax, that's okay. They are a beautiful person and will benefit from my compassionate touch. (So I keep telling myself.)
 
Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

moogie303 said:
sandyrose said:
the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.

First of all, you need to let it go. If you are not in a relaxed state, this energy will carry over in to your massage.

Believe it or not, these people probably are relaxed. Or as relaxed as they are ever going to be. Not everyone is going to completely chill out and start snoring. Everyone is different. These people are probably very up-tight "normally" and they probably are as relaxed as they can be during the massage.

Just let them enjoy their "relaxation." Trust what you are doing.

Angie

Well said Angie! Tension only brings on more tension.

I am one of those who has a hard time relaxing. Even when I feel relaxed, I am often told to relax and then I really tense up! In todays society most people are always in a hurry. We are constantly trying to do one, two or three tasks at once while thinking what we have to do next. When it comes time to relax, our brains keep rushing ahead. How often do you go to bed thinking that you will fall right to sleep only to have all these thoughts start racing through your mind?

What works best for me is a little chit chat. It calms my mind and helps me focus on other things. I tend to have a racing brain and small talk allows me to slow down. Before long I do actually relax which makes it easier for my therapist and allows me to fully enjoy the session. I know that is not the solution for everyone, but it works for me.
 


I don't ask them to relax. But I will use some subtle suggestions like some of the others have given. I will often ask them to just give me all the weight of their head, arm, whatever. I will also take some nice deep breaths myself to sort of signal them to breath deeply. And I love jostling, and rocking motions. In the end I just try to do my thing and hope they will come on the journey with me.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜so open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  33. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Chloe beautiful good body BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN OR FAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLAUDIA: is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbj
  36. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒนwelcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time
  37. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  38. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  39. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  40. Spa in Markham:
  41. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  42. Pink Flower Spa:
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cutie & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cutie is young, very pretty, long hair, great services. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open kind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, MIA, NANCY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  47. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have three girls working today, Vivi, Sarah and Kiki. They are young, beautiful, sexy and cute. They can give massages and are also fun
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜so open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Meera and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Chloe beautiful good body BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN OR FAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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