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Ask for service and price up-front. When she asks how long then you ask. If you wait till the flip it is too late to negotiate.
… then they say xxtras? What xxtras? 🤷‍♀️

… on the flip, suddenly there’s xxtras… :lol … since “yer such a nice guy”

… & some girls get thrown off if u try 2 skip msg… even tho it’s lousy! :D … mess w their routine @ yer peril… & they’re unlikely 2 negotiate when they no u can just walk… :moonwalk

Sure, a few girls gonna give menu @ door… then ok, u walk out, try another girl… guaranteed 2nd girl= same $$$ :money

… once I got discount menu @ door, high price menu on table! :D … but cfs still discount so I stayed…

Agree, u should walk 🏃‍♂️ if menu= $$$$… but collect yer HE if that’s already paid, don’t walk out on HE guaranteed… if yer @ HFH / PERLA, etc, u can’t demand refund due2 xtras… they feign ignorance…

AMP, pre-msg… prolly they refund or u try another girl…

ALL these places rely on regs… 80% biz= regs… if u walk, they lose that sesh AND they lose any repeat biz. … double whammy… even refusing xxtras @ premium body rub, gd chance they lost u…

So I treat any high $$$ as they don’t want my repeat biz…

… funny thing… I almost nvr get these exhorbitant requests… mebbe just white girls do it… but IMHO any girl asking low $$$ & high mileage gonna b very busy… :D

Girls asking 2 much? Very quiet 🦗 :sleep

If I get a girl asking 2 much… 4sure, I’m out… I’m like ok, she doesn’t want me as client… Ofc, it’s gotta actually happen 2 me, but I promise I would! 👍
 
I'm going to be venturing back into the realm of MPAs and SPs soon after a long (3+ year) hiatus. The last time I was at a spa was over a decade ago at a dismal chop shop in Vancouver (no extras partaken of; it was that kind of place) (should have gone to Foxes Den, but I knew the receptionist there socially. Not a way to stay anonymous!). I know it's almost impossible for a bunch of hooligans like this to agree on anything (😜), but I thought I'd ask, for both my benefit and others in the future, what the rates are for various services in the different venues around Toronto. Specifically:
  • rates at Asian spas (Kawaii, Blue Moon, Greenway, Aqua Spa, Sunshine, or Scarborough venues etc) vs body-rub (Premiere chain, SRM, Seductions etc). Are there different rates between the various locations, or different strata, within these groups as well?
  • rates for common extras, eg. HJ, slide, CBJ, BBBJ, FS, DATY, digits etc.
  • what should the rates be (or have been in the past) compared to now, and what if any disparities are you all finding out there now?
Perhaps this can be a resource, like an acronym list, for future reference to those new to the hobby or, like me, just revisiting an old enjoyed pastime.

Thanks for any feedback, gents.
 
I'm going to be venturing back into the realm of MPAs and SPs soon after a long (3+ year) hiatus. The last time I was at a spa was over a decade ago at a dismal chop shop in Vancouver (no extras partaken of; it was that kind of place) (should have gone to Foxes Den, but I knew the receptionist there socially. Not a way to stay anonymous!). I know it's almost impossible for a bunch of hooligans like this to agree on anything (😜), but I thought I'd ask, for both my benefit and others in the future, what the rates are for various services in the different venues around Toronto. Specifically:
  • rates at Asian spas (Kawaii, Blue Moon, Greenway, Aqua Spa, Sunshine, or Scarborough venues etc) vs body-rub (Premiere chain, SRM, Seductions etc). Are there different rates between the various locations, or different strata, within these groups as well?
  • rates for common extras, eg. HJ, slide, CBJ, BBBJ, FS, DATY, digits etc.
  • what should the rates be (or have been in the past) compared to now, and what if any disparities are you all finding out there now?
Perhaps this can be a resource, like an acronym list, for future reference to those new to the hobby or, like me, just revisiting an old enjoyed pastime.

Thanks for any feedback, gents.
AMP rates (clean normal dudes * ) : 40/60/80/100 = hj/hj w nudity/ bs nr cbj/ cbj+cfs or bbbj…. & cuter girls ask 120 or more, but can drop $$$ if u say no…

Cute & mediocre charge same bcuz solidarity… if dude balks @ asking $$$ & changes girls… well, everyone says same $$$, dude can pay up or leave…. If some ask more, get labeled tip hungry& spa clients shop btwn girls or walk which hurts everyone …:moonwalk

Body rubs use2b u pay $140hh @ door, nudity & HE guaranteed… prices after hh that a bit variable, but 180-45, 220hr typically…

… BR places trying 2 increase prices :money … bcuz xtra cleaning 🧹 etc… which they don’t always do… then…

Girls tryng2 increase tips & decrease services… DFK 💋 & BBBJ disappearing … use 2b 50= bbbj & 100= cfs, now seems like 60-100= cbj & cfs= 120 - 200… bbbj :bj = special clients only

So let’s see how this shakes out… really fucked up when these girls= workng @ incalls 💃 during lockdown 🔒 deeply discounted rates… Like u could nail this girl 140hh in May, now it’s $300+?

*if u ≠ clean & normal, rates can b anything… they don’t want u… allotta butt-hurt guys here complain about rates, dunno they were paying ‘asshole tax’ :rolf
 
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