Opinion Cheap ass lowlifes

Yeah, lame excuse he or she meant “body rub or rub & tug”…. Most all incl spas dont even have 90 min rate! :D (Only Flirt so far as I can tell.)
Club dynasty.
has 90 and 135 min.
 
Club dynasty.
has 90 and 135 min.
It's no longer a massage place like before. It is a rub and tug club now. I used to go there a lot with my golf buddies after golf while I was running my biz. My office was only 5 min away. Jojo. May, Nicole were my go to girls. I think they are all gone now, except Jojo. She is a good golfer.
 
It is apparent, as mentioned that FU is in one lane of the “massage” world. The lane he is really in is the “brothel” world as it is called basically everywhere there is a red light district area. The fact that here it gets lumped in with “massage” is confusing. There are definitely distinct lanes.

FU, you can stay in your lane. We will stay in ours.

Also, spending thousands per week seems like a waste of funds. Either it is an addiction thing, an insatiable desire thing, or a flamboyant exaggeration. I hobby quite regularly, often several times a week for massage. I have the funds to do what I want whenever I want. Yet, I have never spent anywhere close to thousands… maybe one thousand once or twice but to go ahead and spend that much every week would basically make it your full time job, even at the brothels.
 
It's no longer a massage place like before. It is a rub and tug club now. I used to go there a lot with my golf buddies after golf while I was running my biz. My office was only 5 min away. Jojo. May, Nicole were my go to girls. I think they are all gone now, except Jojo. She is a good golfer.
… can’t imagine what kinda loser goes 2 CD 90 min msg & tips $10… based on reviews, nudity isn’t included …
 
It is apparent, as mentioned that FU is in one lane of the “massage” world. The lane he is really in is the “brothel” world as it is called basically everywhere there is a red light district area. The fact that here it gets lumped in with “massage” is confusing. There are definitely distinct lanes.

FU, you can stay in your lane. We will stay in ours.

Also, spending thousands per week seems like a waste of funds. Either it is an addiction thing, an insatiable desire thing, or a flamboyant exaggeration. I hobby quite regularly, often several times a week for massage. I have the funds to do what I want whenever I want. Yet, I have never spent anywhere close to thousands… maybe one thousand once or twice but to go ahead and spend that much every week would basically make it your full time job, even at the brothels.
Copying & pasting reviews f/ other websites on things that didn’t happen recently tho… way cheaper! :)
 
It is apparent, as mentioned that FU is in one lane of the “massage” world. The lane he is really in is the “brothel” world as it is called basically everywhere there is a red light district area. The fact that here it gets lumped in with “massage” is confusing. There are definitely distinct lanes.

FU, you can stay in your lane. We will stay in ours.

Also, spending thousands per week seems like a waste of funds. Either it is an addiction thing, an insatiable desire thing, or a flamboyant exaggeration. I hobby quite regularly, often several times a week for massage. I have the funds to do what I want whenever I want. Yet, I have never spent anywhere close to thousands… maybe one thousand once or twice but to go ahead and spend that much every week would basically make it your full time job, even at the brothels.
Several thousands lol.
So let's assume several would at least be 2 right?
$2000 x 52 = $104000 annually

Several imo would be at least 5 so:
$5000 x 52 = $260000 annually

Maybe Frankie really is Kevin Spacey
 
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Several thousands lol.
So let's assume several would at least be 2 right?
$2000 x 52 = $104000 annually

Several imo would be at least 5 so:
$5000 x 52 = $260000 annually

Maybe Frankie really is Kevin Spacey

If he was smart, he would use that money to purchase his own brothel. Have the sex for free, and make it an investment.
 
10 dollar tips have become an epidemic lately along with the I didn’t bring enough money syndrome

What about the flip side to that. Girls quoting over the top rates for extra’s.

I read a certain mpa charged $110 full service, but when I went she quoted $200 full service and $120 for a bj, I passed and got the lamest massage possible, no tease, nothing, now you just paid $140 and that’s all you get, she said the hj was included, could barely touch her anywhere, total waste of time and yet I still tipped her $20.

I find if you feel they over charge and politely decline they give you the worst service possible, that sure isn’t fair...would you pay $340 for a 30min session. These massage girls are out of their minds, you can see an Sp for $160-$200 all in no negotiations.
 
Why would they? 2 reasons:

Option 1) Guy like yourself says no and she makes $160 in 1/2 for putting in zero effort anyway because you tipped her.
Option 2) Some chump with too much money pays her for her now half-assed effort.

Girl wins either way.

The idea is vet the shitty service ones here and don't see them at all in the first place.
 
I'll give you another reason. MPAs have all sorts of tricks for filtering out guys they don't want to see and/or don't want to do high level services with. I'm not saying this is the case with Buzzkill but for sure, one of their methods is to ask for outrageous tips. One well known MPA (at one of your favorite spas btw) told me she did this all the time when she didn't want to do anymore than a simple HJ for the guy...


Why would they? 2 reasons:

Option 1) Guy like yourself says no and she makes $160 in 1/2 for putting in zero effort anyway because you tipped her.
Option 2) Some chump with too much money pays her for her now half-assed effort.

Girl wins either way.

The idea is vet the shitty service ones here and don't see them at all in the first place.
 
I'll give you another reason. MPAs have all sorts of tricks for filtering out guys they don't want to see and/or don't want to do high level services with. I'm not saying this is the case with Buzzkill but for sure, one of their methods is to ask for outrageous tips. One well known MPA (at one of your favorite spas btw) told me she did this all the time when she didn't want to do anymore than a simple HJ for the guy...
Good point.
I can only imagine how low the bar is set for these poor girls sometimes and what they have to deal with.
 
Just dont go to spas at all. Boycott every single one of them and start going to SPs. Teach these bitches whose really in charge.
How about you boycott this site?
I think I saw a lemonade stand on the way in to work today. They could be tax evaders. Go get em.
 
What about the flip side to that. Girls quoting over the top rates for extra’s.

I read a certain mpa charged $110 full service, but when I went she quoted $200 full service and $120 for a bj, I passed and got the lamest massage possible, no tease, nothing, now you just paid $140 and that’s all you get, she said the hj was included, could barely touch her anywhere, total waste of time and yet I still tipped her $20.

I find if you feel they over charge and politely decline they give you the worst service possible, that sure isn’t fair...would you pay $340 for a 30min session. These massage girls are out of their minds, you can see an Sp for $160-$200 all in no negotiations.

This Is exactly the problem. I think that pandemic stricken bank accounts have made many people, not just MPA’s/escorts desperate to recoup lost earnings. It is happening all over - contractors, restaurants, propane delivery, wood and building material, just to name a few.

Everyone wants to make money. The girls want to make it in the fastest way possible, which means the higher-dollar services. Unfortunately for the guys who are not high-mileage clients, they don’t seem to be receptive to us at all. They see clients differently and are clearly visibly disappointed when the service level requested isn’t top of their menu. This basically ruins the session, but both the client and the MPA…. Client gets a shitty 1/4 effort session and the girl is adding in her head less $$$ to her recouping strategy. I mean I get it, but it doesn’t make it right. Money is money and some guys just don’t want the whole menu. It doesn’t make them cheap (although some definitely are as we have seen here) it makes them a different type of client.

It just makes the scene more difficult to navigate now. Old haunts aren’t as friendly to low mileage guys like myself. The scene has changed and it is taking some growing pains to figure it all out. Personally, I’m getting there. The legit scene is where I’m at for the most part as there are some pretty girls with excellent skills that are pushing the envelope slightly towards semi and that’s really doing it for me. I have realized now, through trial and error, that most girls in the semi legit scene are now pushing for semi holistic sessions to make more money. And the semi holistic girls are only interested in top tier sessions. That’s fine, I’ve learned my lesson and will now be more selective to avoid my own disappointment.

Things change. Can’t be helped. Evolution is part of life.
 
This Is exactly the problem. I think that pandemic stricken bank accounts have made many people, not just MPA’s/escorts desperate to recoup lost earnings. It is happening all over - contractors, restaurants, propane delivery, wood and building material, just to name a few.

Everyone wants to make money. The girls want to make it in the fastest way possible, which means the higher-dollar services. Unfortunately for the guys who are not high-mileage clients, they don’t seem to be receptive to us at all. They see clients differently and are clearly visibly disappointed when the service level requested isn’t top of their menu. This basically ruins the session, but both the client and the MPA…. Client gets a shitty 1/4 effort session and the girl is adding in her head less $$$ to her recouping strategy. I mean I get it, but it doesn’t make it right. Money is money and some guys just don’t want the whole menu. It doesn’t make them cheap (although some definitely are as we have seen here) it makes them a different type of client.

It just makes the scene more difficult to navigate now. Old haunts aren’t as friendly to low mileage guys like myself. The scene has changed and it is taking some growing pains to figure it all out. Personally, I’m getting there. The legit scene is where I’m at for the most part as there are some pretty girls with excellent skills that are pushing the envelope slightly towards semi and that’s really doing it for me. I have realized now, through trial and error, that most girls in the semi legit scene are now pushing for semi holistic sessions to make more money. And the semi holistic girls are only interested in top tier sessions. That’s fine, I’ve learned my lesson and will now be more selective to avoid my own disappointment.

Things change. Can’t be helped. Evolution is part of life.

The spa industry needs a reset. Things cant continue as they are. If everyone stopped going to spas, spa owners and MPAs would drop to their knees and beg us to come back. We have given them too much power. Lets take it back
 
The spa industry needs a reset. Things cant continue as they are. If everyone stopped going to spas, spa owners and MPAs would drop to their knees and beg us to come back. We have given them too much power. Lets take it back

The spa industry already had a reset. It was closed for a period longer than 6 months due to the pandemic over two notable lockdowns.

How do you figure if we slam them with another prescribed lockdown in the form of a boycott it will make things any better? You obviously didn’t follow what I was saying.
 
Anyway, this thread seems to have taken a turn to be discussing the same topic as my other thread. Let’s get back on track.

$10 tip is not appropriate. Though tip gouging is happening rampantly, it is apparent that tips are also being withheld or are unacceptably low. That isn’t ok either. I feel that in order for things to settle down on the tip front, both sides need to make adjustments. While charging too much for a service, or begrudging low-mileage clients is one thing, failure to pay for a service is down right insulting and in my opinion abusive.
 
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Anyway, this thread seems to have taken a turn to be discussing the same topic as my other thread. Let’s get back on track.

$10 tip is not appropriate. Though tip gouging is happening rampantly, it is apparent that tips are also being withheld or are unacceptably low. That isn’t ok either. I feel that in order for things to settle down on the tip front, both sides need to make adjustments. While charging too much for a service is one thing, failure to pay for a service is down right insulting and in my opinion abusive.
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