Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

You know, in a way I can see how "silencing" people on social media just ends up taunting them and creating a "martyr." On the other hand, there is people, like Jimmy the Retard, who are not bound to any rules of common sense and just run their trolling propaganda machine with overtime. Those people have to be shut down. Robert Malone has a very "trolly" vibe to him, and he sounds like a bitter old man. Trolls cannot be taken seriously, or have you ever gotten anywhere taking Jimmy seriously before?
Yeah, with respect...I could not disagree more with the notion that wrong ideas need to be "shut down". Argue with people, yes, even ridicule bad opinions, sure...but shut down, no. First, it doesn't work. Second, look at history and see how many times ideas that turned out to have value started out as being ridiculed.

I happen to disagree with JimmyD's take on this issue, but a few months back I was roughly on the same side of his political arguments. I don't think anyone, myself included, is right all the time. But the acceptance the idea of "shutting down" has gained is really worrisome and does not bode well for society.
 
Yeah, with respect...I could not disagree more with the notion that wrong ideas need to be "shut down". Argue with people, yes, even ridicule bad opinions, sure...but shut down, no. First, it doesn't work. Second, look at history and see how many times ideas that turned out to have value started out as being ridiculed.

I happen to disagree with JimmyD's take on this issue, but a few months back I was roughly on the same side of his political arguments. I don't think anyone, myself included, is right all the time. But the acceptance the idea of "shutting down" has gained is really worrisome and does not bode well for society.

When it's a matter of public safety then it has to be done. Information is very valuable, and I mean that in dollars and cents value. People like Robert Malone and Matias are exploiting the people who are prone to believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those kind of people should be silenced.

Jimmy.... not silenced but just ignored. He doesn't have any original ideas or opinions of his own. He sees the title of an article and he believes it. This guy probably never read anything, not even a comic book.
 
When it's a matter of public safety then it has to be done. Information is very valuable, and I mean that in dollars and cents value. People like Robert Malone and Matias are exploiting the people who are prone to believe in conspiracy theories, I believe those kind of people should be silenced.

Jimmy.... not silenced but just ignored. He doesn't have any original ideas or opinions of his own. He sees the title of an article and he believes it. This guy probably never read anything, not even a comic book.
You mean like the proverbial shout of "fire" in a crowded theatre? Yes, in those circumstances we have to curtail free speech, but not in the context of medical advice in a pandemic. Plus, as I've already pointed out--IT DOES NOT WORK. Joe Rogan alone has a bigger audience than most legacy media combined. All that curtailing free speech achieves is it gives a semblance of credibility to the people they try to silence. But much worse than that, if you take away speech as a tool you leave people with no other option but violence. It is curious to me how easily people have forgotten that lesson.
 

An interesting conversation amongst immunologists. It's refreshing when you can hear a group of experts talking about an issue without conspiracy dramas and pseudo science or religious hocus pocus.

@stripfan Does Jesus advocate for conspiracy theories? Sunday school me please. I could be converted, I promise you.
 
Indeed it has. As a Veterinary drug for treating worms in horses. In the correct dose, it is used in people to also treat parasitic diseases.

I think I'll disengage from this conversation. I learned long ago not to engage in conversations with people on the Internet, especially when it's clear that the other person is ill-informed. I'll just leave these two links for you and wish you well.



Is that the same FDA thatโ€™s pushing Pfizer, when Pfizerโ€™s CEO said itโ€™s ineffective against omicron?

So, are you disputing its Nobel association, or itโ€™s efficacy with that article.

You said ivermectin was hurting and killing people. Not sure how thatโ€™s a rebuttal.


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What could be the reason for this strange decision? You'll have to ask the tranny Jew who runs the health department of the USA.
 
Ya the opinion of one guy vs a massive investigation conducted by several agencies, but carry on. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems unlikely.

I love the theory that COVID is a grand plot conducted by governments and I dunno, rich people or some shit. Then I was remembering the big dust-up between Canada and the US over milk or eggs or some fucking thing a couple of years ago. So two governments that by any measure are the best of friends literally can't agree on the price of eggs, yet governments that are sworn enemies over many decades are able to conduct this great conspiracy in complete secrecy, discovered only by a handful of YouTube Experts. (Is that a thing?) It's absolutely laughable and worthy of a Monty Python skit.
 
People do choose not to get vaccinated for many reasons, and the vast majority of them are stupid.

And yes, I agree, there is evidence that fully vaxed people can still spread the virus, however their viral load is much smaller. Consider two people with a method of squirting water on another person. One has a fire hose. The other has a squirt gun. But yes, both have the ability to get someone else wet. Regardless, if the person they spread it to is also vaccinated, that person will be just fine.

You're making my head explode. If you actually believe this shit you're posting, then I feel sorry for you. I hope you don't catch COVID and die. But Natural Selection is a bitch.

I'm muting now. Have a nice day,

I had Covid (delta). Catch up with the discussion. I have better immunity than most now. I wonder how natural selection will work itself out with the long term effects of the Covid vaccines.

Your fire hose analogy would be good, only if the data didnโ€™t show that vaxxed and unvaxxed spread it the same. The tens of thousands of vaxxed cases in the last few months should tell you that regardless of the data though.


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I had Covid (delta). Catch up with the discussion. I have better immunity than most now. I wonder how natural selection will work itself out with the long term effects of the Covid vaccines.

Your fire hose analogy would be good, only if the data didnโ€™t show that vaxxed and unvaxxed spread it the same. The tens of thousands of vaxxed cases in the last few months should tell you that regardless of the data though.


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Alleged infection. You should include the disclaimer when speaking about your "alleged infection." So far, we are all leaning towards believing that you are secretly vaxxed and here just to troll.
 
I haven't been following him, but the conclusions he's drawing in the piece you shared are extraordinary. The vaccines "don't work and should be taken off the market"? That in itself is an incomplete and irresponsible statement. If he'd qualified it by saying they're ineffective at limiting the spread of the infection, I'd understand...but every sign indicates the vaccines are quite effective minimizing serious cases.

I didnโ€™t share the article, but I heard him say similar things on another interview. The spike in the current vaccine does nothing for omicron, and could create problems going forward.

Everything that is happening today with the never ending boosters, the breakthrough cases etc. he talked about months ago. Not to mention the ADE.


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Yup he's on ignore now. I love a good Internet Troll but not when they're spreading information that is killing people, I have little patience. In my personal FB, I have a feature I call COVIDIOT of the Day. Generally, the featured person is (or more likely was) a COVID denier or antivaxxer that's now rotting in a hole in the ground. I'm fine with that, but what I am not fine with is when these are people that have a megaphone to spread their shit, and as a result, assist in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.

Bear in mind, that I work in scientific endeavours and I'm biologist by trade. Just as most things economic boil down to "supply and demand", most biological things boil down to Natural Selection. Mother Nature is currently doing a fine job of removing stupid people (and Republicans!) from the gene pool. As a biologist, I understand that over-population is the largest problem facing humanity. For decades, I've joked that the world would benefit from a good pandemic. With "only" 6 million deaths worldwide, COVID is falling short. We need to kill off about 2 - 3 billion people to make a real difference. However, it's a start, and it's always best to lose the stupid people.

Some of my colleges and I regularly engage in "What if..?" discussions. Here is a current one: What if no vaccines had been developed to fight COVID? How many would have died, and when would it end? Our best guess is that it may well have killed 100 million people, perhaps more. Still a long way shy of what we need. There is a reasonable chance we'll see another zootropic-based pandemic in our lifetimes. As populations become more and more congested (especially in Asia) and where people are obliged to eat unsafe food, it's inevitable. The development of mRNA vaccines is perhaps the greatest medical development in health care in a century, but it's not a huge stretch to imagine a viral disease that defies an effective vaccine development. Imagine if HIV spread in the same way COVID does. There's no cure for it, but it's relatively difficult to spread HIV as it requires direct mucous or blood contact. COVID spreads through atomization. Imagine walking past someone in your condo that is surrounded in an invisible cloud of HIV that you are almost guaranteed to catch.

Anyway, Jimmy is being ignored. I suspect he's vaccinated and trolling, but maybe he really is just fucking stupid as a sack of hammers.

Put that head back in the sand, bro. All the best!


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Ya the opinion of one guy vs a massive investigation conducted by several agencies, but carry on. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems unlikely.

I love the theory that COVID is a grand plot conducted by governments and I dunno, rich people or some shit. Then I was remembering the big dust-up between Canada and the US over milk or eggs or some fucking thing a couple of years ago. So two governments that by any measure are the best of friends literally can't agree on the price of eggs, yet governments that are sworn enemies over many decades are able to conduct this great conspiracy in complete secrecy, discovered only by a handful of YouTube Experts. (Is that a thing?) It's absolutely laughable and worthy of a Monty Python skit.

None of the conspiracists have ever even accused anyone directly, just a mysterious force that cannot be named is seemingly controlling and pulling the strings.

Don't hold your breath waiting for a culprit, or evidence of it.

Maybe we can shrug it off and blame it on QAnon?
 
Hey Hornet.com. The definition of living in someoneโ€™s head is what Iโ€™m doing to Frank. Not sure thereโ€™s one post he doesnโ€™t mention my name.

Keep it coming though.


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Joe Rogan alone has a bigger audience than most legacy media combined.

Definitely the touchstone by which all major healthcare decisions should be made... the opinion of a former comedian and kickboxer (who apparently suffered some brain damage) and university drop out. I'd never heard of the guy until a few weeks ago.
 
What could be the reason for this strange decision? You'll have to ask the tranny Jew who runs the health department of the USA.
They didn't pull them all... Just two, that are completely ineffective at treating Omicron. You might try reading the body of articles, rather than just the click-bait headline.
 
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    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  30. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Tuesday May 20, 2025, our attendants will be Monica ๐Ÿ˜, Connie ๐Ÿค—, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ and Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (Philippines), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, ELLA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™
  34. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Victoria Day!!! ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Cathy, Coco, JPN Yui, Cindy, Kelly, GFE Eva, Amber, Echo & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธCarlyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  38. wonderspa:
    welcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time๐ŸŒนmust try
  39. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGood news for all the west end people in Etobicoke Mississauga Milton and Brampton!!!๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa is now working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke starting this Tuesday May 20th with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE)
  42. 89moonstar&MoonMoon:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish Latin white girl and 22ys Colombia girl today &&Bradford location 6477129688
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LINA (12pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups, brown skin, round tight big butt, cute baby face, great services. LUCKY (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s sexy body open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young cute Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind 25โ€™s and nice GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, MALIYA, MONICA, SASHA, BELA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SABHA, MONIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience.
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga ViVi Sarah and Kiki work. They are young, sexy and cute and they give very good massage. Sarah is 23 years old and still a student. She only works for one day.
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