Buzzkill in TJ This Weekend

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Remember, this happened in 2005 and gas cost a lot less back then. It was also when libres were just starting to not use their meters. I'd made the exact same trip several times before and the meter was always about 210 pesos.

The guy refused to turn on his meter, which is why I had to barter with him. He knew it was a $2.00 ride by the meter. He also knew I knew what the correct fare was and that he'd lose a fare by trying to jack up the price, which is why he agreed to accept $2.00.

The $2.00 each was a BS move he pulled at the border. My "friend" (like Fireballs) wets his pants at the mention of a cop. I'm still upset he ran back and give the guy an extra $2.00. What the cab driver did was just plain wrong--and IMHO people shouldn't be allowed to get away with things that are wrong. (Plus calling the cops was a bluff. He wasn't using his meter. That's illegal and there is no way he'd want to face the cops.)

Remember I have a place in TJ and know the cab prices. I expect to be treated like a local, not fleeced like a tourist. I very seldom have cabs try to scam me--execpt in the ZN and at the border where screwing American is considered "fair game."
 
I am more or less with Fireballs on this. As I don't think a guy can even pay for the gas with the $2, but I would rather him turn on the meter and let me give him a tip...of course not everyone will tip, but I really want to tip because it was my idea....I have to hear...$x plus tip....just something I don't like.

Most of my adventures with the taxis start in Zona Norte...as I am not catching them at the border. When a guy is trying to take advanaeforum.xxxe of me, I just tell him I would rather walk.

EX...I was going from Zona Norte last week, and the Libre told me $10...I told him that was too much and I would walk....the next guy turned on the meter and it was 21 pesos when we got there...I gave him $5 and he was greatful.

Now often when I deem the guy an asshole, I get out of the taxi and don't close the door. I've had my share of run ins with these guys, and I just take care of it in my own way.:)
 
Sorry to hear about ElDangeroso's friend, though it is a bit difficult to believe considering the location right in front of Adelitas. Imp point is that we have to be on alert all the time. Sometimes we take the zona safety for granted, and for most time it is
 
Fireballs, interesting reading as usual, Thanks. About Burts run in with the Taxi driver, I also need to be like a Burt. Every time I give 5$ to the cab driver for ride from border to the zona and they are not happy, last time one guy had the nerve to demand 6$ ! Heck I just gave him a cold look and thrust 5$ and walked away, didnt want to spoil my trip from the start, but I hate when these f+++kers take you for a ride !
 
Well lets say something good about the 'ugly Americans' and really I'm only talking about tourist visiting other countries like Mexico, and that they act like ambassadors of America, and should remember that, when they are screaming about being cheated over a dollar on the bus, like the example I gave of that couple staying at the very expensive Hilton, when in reality they were not being cheated at all.

I took a cruise a few months ago, and spent two days in Miami, South Beach. One of the first things you notice is lot for European tourist, and they don't tip, as that's their custom in Europe, so what the businesses do is just automatically add a 15% service charge to every bill to make up for the difference. As Americans are the best tippers in the world, even in TJ a tips isn't always expected, as most Mexicans don't tip the cab drives. What was also surprising to me is all the European and American chicks that go topless on the beaches in South Beach!

Bohemian there is no "alleged" run ins with taxi driver from Burt. These are facts. You know some of Burt's techniques I might use myself for dealing with unruly taxi drivers. For example, lets say taxi libre doesn't turn on his meter or tells you how much, and when you get to the zona, he says $5 dollars. What Burt recommends is casually getting out of the cab first, as this is very important, and then reaching in with one arm and giving the taxi driver $1.50 dollars, and telling him that's what I gave the driver last time, and walking away while the taxi driver stews in his own juice, as there is little he can do at that point.

Now I do get a little pissed when the taxi driver doesn't want to put on the meter, and tells me $5 dollars. But I could at least respect that he told me the price first, as I could negotiate the price down to $ 3 or $4 dollars, or find another taxi driver willing to put on the meter, getting rare these days at the border. Now it is the law that the taxi driver is suppose to put on the meter, and charge you according to what the meter says. But many people will disagree with me here, but I also feel there is a 'moral law' that's more important. If the taxi driver does not want to turn on his meter and only charge me $2 dollars to take me to the zona, I"m not going to try to force him too, by telling him what the law is. The guy has been waiting in line for 1/2 an hour maybe longer waiting for a good paying customer, and here I come along with my $ 2 dollars ride to the zona. So I respect their wish to be paid $5 dollars, as long as they ask me first, and give me a chance to negotiate, or ask another taxi driver in the back on the line who won't care as much about only a $ 2 dollar fare. ( I don't see how these guys can make it on $2 dollars?)
 
Let's face it we have plently of misbehaving or "ugly" visitors (and yes even immigrants) in the US from all over the world. Why do you think LA is so fucked up? In LA some people constantly complain about the "ugly Immigrant" (and I definately do not mean this as any sort of racist attack against any group- just a politcal one) when legal and illegal immigrants and their children are screwing up the local and regional law enforcement, education, and healthcare budgets. And we cannot scapegoat African-Americans for this- they are less than 10% of the population in LA- which is a Latin city. So who is the problem? Ugly Americans?

I think Brits can be worse than American tourists- at least as far as being cheap and rude. Italians are generally louder and more boisterous. Japanese are famous for overpaying for everything and seem to always move in groups of no less than 10-that is annoying, too. I'd critique the travel habits of other countries but, let's face it, only rich countries have many tourists. Being a tourist is a luxury! Most people of the world cannot afford foreign leisure travel.

Rude, oafish American, Asian, and European tourists clog the skies, streets, freeways, and sidewalks of LA. Not intended as a diatribe, just trying to bring balance to the dialogue. Americans should just be themselves abroad- just like everyone else. The phrase should be the "ugly tourist" which is pretty much universal.
 
Yeah, the story of his friend getting choke hold and robbed right outside of AB on Saturday night(any night for that matter) is as believable as Bush and Chavez having dinner together. Plus, the police station is right around the corner. Maybe his friend is not telling the truth.
 
I kind of thought the same thing, if he was going from AB to get a cab he would be standing right in front of the doorway. Usually there are doormen, a cop or security and half a dozen cabbies. I find it hard to believe that someone could get strong armed and choked out there.
 
That is a very strange report as you know both Juantez and the doorman Mairo keep radios and the police respond quick...Juantez even has a paid auxillary police officer security guy walking with him outside....

On another site I read from a long time vet, that CC had better talent than AB on Saturday night. Guess just a difference in opinions.
 
Ripped off at Adelitas on a Saturday night on the busiest night of the week even at that late hour, in front of locals, cops who stand by the door, and mostly American sex tourist who frequent that bar.....and none of them did anything to stop it? Yeah, I would call that a brazen attack. I just wonder why those choke hold muggers just don't go inside the bar and apply the choke hold in the bar?

You know what since ElDangeroso didn't actually witness the attack of his street wise friend maybe that attack didn't actually occur right outside Adelitas, and maybe it really happened on Articulo 123 where all the other choke holds take place, maybe he was in the wrong side of town where those other kind of SGs hang out and it's dangerous, and just said the friend said happened at AB to cover up the fact where he really was at?

I don't hang out in Chicago that often anymore but I'd say most of the girls there are not fat, old, nor ugly, maybe a few are but not that many, but I guess opinions will vary.

Looks like ElDangeroso was staying in a hotel on the US side? He goes to AB at 5pm leaves and talks about an hour in customs when he comes back at 9PM. You know they have some real nice hotels in TJ that are pretty safe that way you won't have to go in long border lines.

Nice interesting story and fun reading. But what happened after Lupe jumped off doggie style as you were applying the porn star lumber to her? Did she just leave you hanging, or were you able to finish up in another less hurtful position?
 
Too bad you missed out on sampling the earlier hotties.

And it's really too bad about your bud - At least he got out alive and (I guess) without serious injury.

I'm a bit surprised by the location where he was assulted, but at 2 A.M. TJ can be an especially tough town. I'm not sure what your buddy could have done differently to reduce the chance of this type of assult. Too bad he also had to give up his watch because he didn't have any dinero stashed on his person nor did he bum a ride to the border with another monger.
 
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    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more.. hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience.must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    โœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGOOD NEWS GOOD NEWSโœ…๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’‹Cambodian Princess Suki will return to Jennyโ€™s Spa next Tuesday June 3rd๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa will be working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke next Tuesday June 3rd with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Camb
  37. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 2 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. JESSICA (3pm-9pm) is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs
  38. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim & incredible
  41. starjey888:
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  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite
  43. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Larissa , Gabby , Sunny, Kimmie , Christine and new Lora on duty at top norch wellness. Call 437-522-9961 now
  44. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Tuesday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Christina ๐Ÿคฉ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, AMANDA, PAOLA, MALIYA, PREET, SARIKA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can wors
  47. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (7PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  48. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  49. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  50. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
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