Body Parts missed during massage

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Does anyone have frustrations on parts being skipped during a full body massage?.In my experience the muscles that get missed of most are the glutes, upper thigh top of quads,abs,inner thigh.It's frustrating when you pay for a full body massage yet only half the body is done.

WS
 
Couldn't agree more. A huge amount of therapists don't seem to think hands and/or feet are part of the body either......
 
A massage therapist's POV......

In my experience the majority of clients have areas of their body that they prefer not to be massaged. Therefore, I see it as my responsibility during the consultation to agree with the client what areas will be omitted and note it on the consent form.

By default I don't massage the gluteus muscle group, but will do so on request, or will recommend it if the client has specific problems.

Full body massage means so many things to so many people and is further complecated by the reservations of tutors.

IMO, I think this is more of an issue of communication and as therapists we should be clearer in what we will do. On the other hand clients who are are experienced at receiving massage, should make their wishes known when visiting a new therapist.

Myarka.
 
absolutely agree

and sorry myarka, but if you advertise a full body massage, but do not actually include the glutes (or for anyone else, anything else) as standard it really is up to you to qualify what you are about to do that is short of the advertised expectations.
 
and just to add, from a clients point of view, I tend to trust the therapist to do what is offered. When one asks questions like "which bits do you massage ?" or "do you actually massage to the top of the inner thighs ?" or "do you do the tum" you can feel the red flags going up all over the place, so i stopped quizzing therapists about what they actually massage a long time ago. If i receive a massage that I regard as incomplete I just do not return.

and definitions of whole of body are a "trade" problem, not a client problem - most of us think we understand plain english, and are not aware that some tutors or therapists have different interpretations of the same offering
 
I think we are saying the same thing, it's about communication. I have no problem with clients wanting a full body massage to the extent you are looking for. But I have to be sensitive to the needs of my clients where the majority have preferences of what they wish to be omitted.

I also agree that therapists should not omit parts without consultation and that's why I explain to all my clients the sequence I use. I do this for both direct and indirect techniques.

Myarka.
 
It is impossible to give a thorough FULL body massage with consultation in an hour, and I refuse to time myself to only 7 mins per leg ect like I was trained, as some areas need more work taking up more time.

Full body massage is an advert of what is available, all areas that will be massaged should be discussed during the consultation.
 
Hi, it is a communication problem, a timing problem, and a training problem.

It's not really possible Whitesnake to do a comprehensive full body massage in a 1 hour session.

There does definitely a communication problem between clients & therapists and this needs to be resolved. Some clients don't like belly, inner thigh and buttock rubs.

And as for training, a lot of training courses don't cover working the gluts, and may be conservative about thigh work. We still live in an "anal" society.

What I do is offer 1 hour treatments for specific problems (which is the bulk of my work as a solution-focused massage therapist), and 1.5+ hours for a more comprehensive full body treatment, including the thighs, gluts and belly (unless this is the problematic area then they get worked regardless of timing).

A simple easy solution. Oh, and as for money, I charge a little less for 1.5 hours to encourage clients to go this route.

RP
 
Why not pay in 'FULL' i.e. pay HALF the prior agreed fee; enjoy the look of stunned surprise on the therapists face and then explain that if you (the therapist) took your car to a petrol station and asked for a FULL tank and it was only half filled would you pay the FULL price!?

Agree anyway with the sentiment of your post. Jeez how much work do the gluteal muscles do in daily life only to be cruelly neglected by the majority of the 'Full Body' sic massage brigade Not to mention their connected mates the thigh muscles.
 
I agree with you Luke, gluts need a good going over. I would say over 90% of my clients have their gluts done. But that is unusual, most therapists don't and its such a pity.

As an added note, I just realised I don't often use terms like "full body", just what the treatment is good for. [two minutes later] I've just checked a leaflet and full body is not mentioned. Hurray I'm off the hook!!! Prehaps those who use the term "full body" need to redefine what that means

best wishes

RP
 
Yeah it's a question that kneads to be arsekd

What is a Full Body Massage?

It would be funnier to have a drawing of the human body with all the bits that aren't included in the so called/fraudulent 'full body' massage, missing
 
I trained over 10 years ago and never occurred to me not to include glutes until seeing the discussions here. Agree it can be difficult to cover everything properly in an hour especially if there's a problem area which needs more work and, if I'm a client, a one hour massage which tries to do the whole body can feel superficial. I don't see many new massage clients these days but, if I do, I'll book them in for 90 mins including a 15 min consultation. This includes checking if there are any areas they want to avoid or concentrate on and time to explain what I'm proposing to do & why. Then we've got 75 mins which for me is about right for a full body.
 
Agree completely. I paid for a 90 minute full body massage and the lady did not do my glutes, hamstrings, and barely did my abs. Not only that, she stopped to get lotion ever minute, so contact was constantly broken and the massage was constantly interrupted. She did less in 90 minutes than some therapists can do in 45! The other issue I seem to have with some therapists is they spend 60 out of 90 minutes working on my back doing the same strokes over and over. Why? Don't my legs, arms, head and neck, feet, glutes, abs...etc, need just as much attention?

Also, as a guy, I want abs, thighs, quads, and glutes done..espeically because I have fibromyalgia. But I am afraid to ask therapists anything because like others, I don't want to set off "red flags". If the massage is not thorough, I just don't come back.
 
I think a lot of massage therapists are just not comfortable with the whole (full) human body; consequently they develop their own 'style' which may be defined by the areas of the body they 'don't do' (because they are scared).

Confident and straightforward practitioners rarely encounter problems with clients asking for extra services (perhaps?) especially if they discuss what is/isn't included before the session or before the booking.

The number of therapists who are prepared to take the money and then not give a genuine full body massage is in my experience (double figures) the majority. It's all so 'naughty' isn't it?!

He or she who pays the piper calls the tune (not).
 
I think it's down to the training industry. My aromatherapy tutor told me she was trained to include glutes - but by the time she was training us, she was telling us to cover about half of the thighs with towels, never mind massaging the glutes!

I'm happy to massage anything clients ask for, but I don't touch the glutes unless a) they've asked for it (some do), or b) they've got a specific problem that I think it would help (and I'll ask them first if they are happy with it). It's a shame, but there you are. I'm sure I read in a previous thread on here about a woman who was taught not to massage men's legs above the knee!

Only yesterday I was telling someone how ridiculous it is that we don't normally do the glutes - seeing as they are a major group of muscles that connect two crucial parts of the body. But do clients expect it? Not generally, in my experience.
 
It's so sad people aren't being trained to do glutes any more. I'd be miffed if they weren't included in a FBM & most of my clients who have been having massage for a number of years wouldn't be too happy either.

Granted towel technique needs to be OK so you work in two stages & client doesn't get over exposed but if client or therapist is nervous you can work through towels - I was taught to use elbows!

As others have said it's an important area. Think it's a slippery slope for our profession if we're gradually declaring key areas of the body off limits.

Jx
 
friend of mine who is a massage therapist was trained not to touch inner thighs( sensitive part),myself wouldn't want to be massaged there! nor the bottom or tum,that's my personal preference (only been massaged once think will open other thread explaining this!!)but then I think rest ok not breasts!

of course I hope full body massage doesn't include the genitalia.

Amethsytfairy
 
Hello Amethystfairy
Interesting post,my answer is No full body massage doesn't include the genitalia
 
Indeed they are, and as long as you are happy to pay, it seems there is no shortage of people out there happy to massage them (so I'm told). But don't expect a good full body massage if you go for that option!
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ Pink Flower Spa ๐Ÿ“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 โœจ Open 10AMโ€“9PM ๐Ÿ’– ELINA ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡พ โ€ข MIKA ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข KELLY ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ โ€ข VANESSA ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ Exotic charm & elegance. Let our radiant ladies melt your stress & lift your spirit. Pampering done right.
  33. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ˜˜today have susan, ella, tifany, lyly come to enjoy good time with our young beautiful girls , all service available...... Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ Spa Website:๐Ÿ’ you can click in this web to see All Girls pictures baby : www.sugarlovespa.ca
  35. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  36. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls ๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  38. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery beautiful Cici Long leg ,amazing massage,nice body slide, Deep to relaxing,give you comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Today is here . Bunny miya,angel Lisa and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message 647 891 0699ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  43. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Carla ๐Ÿฅณ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Vietnamese Girl Aiko She is Mixed Chinese/Japanese Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young new girl Sherry 28โ€™s with curve body and young flirty Mia 25โ€™ with curve body, pretty Ella and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 bomok appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธJessicaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: HELEN, KIKI & CINDY. HELEN Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LILY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LILY is a beautiful slim Thai lady, petite with C Cups & a nice medium sized ass. Her services will complete your day.
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