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I recently went to a reflexologist for a session, I had just had my baby and was in need of a boost.

My therapist talked non stop throughout (I think I said about 2 words she was a mile a minute) and did more massage than actual reflexology. At the end I had to say well actually this point was sensitive as was this.

I was exhausted when I left and totally drained and couldn't even talk when I got home.

She knows I'm also a reflexologist and she's quite well respected in her field. I was very disappointed in her non professional manner and talking about herself and her life thoughout.

It's been playing on my mind should I say something to her?
 
Not an easy question to answer.

She could have been nervous because she knew you were trained and just talked and talked? After the treatment, she may have realised this and until you book again you wont know?

This could be her way of doing reflexology?

Alternatively you could go to her again and just say that I would prefer to have peace and quiet, etc, etc?

Or you could find another reflexologist?

Is there nobody in your area to do a therapy swap?

Good luck

Fudge
 
Thanks Fudge, I think it's how she is. I went to her for a massage before and she talked non-stop as well. It's just her manner. I won't go back to her for a treatment I prefer a very quiet relaxed atmosphere with little talking throughout.
 
I am continually amazed by the number of therapists who talk non-stop through their treatments. I'm afraid I don't find the nerves explanation a valid excuse for doing this - the therapist should surely be led by the wishes of the client and be sensitive to their mood. The fact that you only said a few words to her during the treatment should have been picked up by her within the first few minutes. Did she not talk to you before the treatment commenced to find out how you were feeling?

I have had a similar experience with a reflexologist and even though I explicitly told her I wished to enjoy the treatment without talking - she still persisted. I stopped going in the end.

That may sound a bit intolerant perhaps but you're paying for the treatment after all and if you aren't getting what you want.....
 
Hi ya

Of course if it is the clients wish to be quiet, that is important. But there is another way of looking at this: if the intention to heal is "set-up" then healing will occur, regardless of chat or not. I think what this shows up is how really tense people have become in today's society and how we have become so intolerent of others, ourselves and the world around us. If someone doesn't like a practitioners style then seek another practitioner.

Best Wishes

Reflex Pixie
 
I can't help but wonder why you didn't say something at the time, saying it after the treatment is a bit late for you. I like you don't like too much conversation during the treatment, unless of course it relates to painful reflexes etc. Hearing about the therapists life is a definite no no -

I presume you would not return?

Luv Binah
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I had a whole reply typed there....but what I really want to say is...

Why didn't I say anything, I like her as a person but not as a therapist. There's a network meeting coming up so I think I'll start a conversation of talking during the clients time.

As for being intolerent, I don't think so. When people come for a treatment they pay me so as far as I'm concerned it's their time not mine. It should be led by the client not the therapist.
 
I'l have to disagree on this one

It depends on the therapy being applied!

As a TCM practitioner Tui Na massage is a medical system. Patients are paying me to fix them. If i can't do my job properly then there's no point in treating them other than to take their money. I could be treating someone else who needs the therapy.

On the other hand if someone comes for a relaxing 'therapeutic' massage then by all means the environment should be as they prefer.

which is easier on me anyway .

Each therapy to their own, i went for a reflexology session with my wife a few years back, and the first thing the lady asked was do you prefer quiet or to chat.

After 10 minutes of Tui Na most people go quiet anyway, if they don't i just push an few more buttons to bring them into the 'treatment zone!!'


INDO
 
So you do as the client desires - is that what you're saying? If so, we both are saying the same thing? I'm very confused.....

(That is after you've done the initial consultation and discussed the treatment that's to follow)
 
I tend to guage my talking by the client... if they are chatty I listen and respond; if they are quiet I tend to engage with the energy of the client through the treatment and only ask if there is discomfort when I notice a disturbance in the system. I always ask the client at the end how they are feeling and if there is anything they would like me to consider next time... its a shame that you weren't given this opportunity when you had your treatment.
 
I perform my treatments as i see fit, the threshold of discomfort for the patient is ( if treating pain) is my boundry, even then its my job to work slightly beyond this.

swedish, holistic and 'therapeutic' massage is mainly for relaxation and is therefore at the clients personal preference.....to an extent

Always listen to client, but you must never let them lead the treatment, we have trained long and sometimes hard to provide these services so self confidence is at utmost importance.

i don't talk about myself during treatments (most of the time) and i always steer patients back to being aware of the applications. delivery by the parctitioner and acceptence is important during treatments.

If a practitioner is naturally chatty and this bothers you, just change practitioners.

If you do say anything to your reflexologist then make a joke of it, her reaction will tell you if this is her normal mood during practice.

Some people just have treatments so they can natter anyway, but thats upto the patient. The practitioner should always be mindful with intent.

INDO
 
I always say to a client if they wilsh to chat feel free or if they want to shut their eyes and chill, its up to them, Its their treatment and I try to go by what the client need on that day som days they want to chat other times they just nod off
 
Of all my clients I have 4 who talk non-stop through the treatment (one was in tonight)

Personally, I find this hard work but at the end of the day it is their treatment so if they want to chat I will.

My fav client is those who chat for two-three minutes and then close their eyes and let me get on with it.

I also had a treatment from a reflexologist who talked all through a treatment despite me doing a lot of non-verbal stuff like closing my eyes, folding my arms, turning my head away. She continued to talk despite my monosylabic replies.

She said, at the end of the treatment, "I could see you were really starting to relax there"

I didn't say anything, I just didn't go back. Maybe wrong of me but I just wanted a relaxing treatment not friendship and rather than getting more annoyed by discussing this with her I just voted with my feet.
 
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  37. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8 ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ MONA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  38. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06 1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ HELEN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  39. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ AISHA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
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  42. Soul Relax Spa:
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  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  44. SL Spa:
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  45. Lulu1980:
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  46. DareDevil:
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  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
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  48. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 2 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Lulu. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LULU is new. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3
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