Akira from Premier is she gone gone?

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Akira the Japanese girl with the horrible boobjob. I saw her in 2019 and she was decently fun. I know its been a bunch of years already, any idea where shes gone to now if still working at all? I doubt a girl with a boobjob would ever disappear from the SP world...
 
Yep, indie SP.

She could probably go back to Premier if she wants but I would say that she's got enough of a client list and a high enough price (4 bills per hour) that she really doesn't need to.
 
 
I remember seeing her at Perla in 2014, really fun session, especially in the shower for 2 afterwards. Wish her well, and may have to treat myself to her company sometime.
 
Wait wtf her?! Isn't she like some insane unaffordable indie like Florence Yi and Akira yofu etc
It's high but not unaffordable. Basically two trips to VIP/QQ or an Asian Incall like BarbieHouse. A lot more than a 40m session at Perla though.

The question, then, is if you'd rather spend the money on two separate sessions, or on 1 hour with an indy at that price.

(There's no wrong answer, because it's your money to spend)
 
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She had B/G content on her Olyfans.
 
It's high but not unaffordable. Basically two trips to VIP/QQ or an Asian Incall like BarbieHouse. A lot more than a 40m session at Perla though.

The question, then, is if you'd rather spend the money on two separate sessions, or on 1 hour with Akira.

(There's no wrong answer, because it's your money to spend
I'd rather take 2 sessions anyway.
 
Does an hour indy time actually work out to be significantly more time than 40 minutes at Perla?
 
Does an hour indy time actually work out to be significantly more time than 40 minutes at Perla?
The quality indies it does work out to more time not necessarily MSOG as customers stop booking them if they are shorted time (a 1HR session is only 40 mins). The big disadvantage with Indies over the SPA is if they are running late as frequently happens there is no place to wait if incall is in a condo or apartment especially if parking is not close by.
 
Does an hour indy time actually work out to be significantly more time than 40 minutes at Perla?
400/hr vs 150 plus tip for 45 minutes

The hr version includes a shower so I think indie is more expensive
To each their own though
 
The quality indies it does work out to more time not necessarily MSOG as customers stop booking them if they are shorted time (a 1HR session is only 40 mins). The big disadvantage with Indies over the SPA is if they are running late as frequently happens there is no place to wait if incall is in a condo or apartment especially if parking is not close by.

And that's exactly why I don't go indy. The wait times are ALWAYS ridiculous and there's no where to wait except sit in your car. This is why I no longer go to Lush for example
 
My experience is that with indies you usually just have time for one SOG so you're paying more, usually for more time, but ultimately for the same service. Yeah, you get to talk to the girl and there's some fun in that but in the long run I'd rather have more fun more frequently.

For the girls, it's the opposite. They want to see as few guys as possible for as much money as they can get, so I totally understand their angle. With so many girls trying to go indie I just don't know how sustainable it is for them.

I know some girls who have been successful at it and they love it. Usually more money with much fewer clients and they have total control over who they see. But for most girls, they're not going to be able to sustain enough regulars to make it work. They've gotta be able to establish regulars and to do that they've gotta be really good looking and/or provide REALLY good service. I'm sure there's a surge in the beginning as guys who can afford the higher rates want to see them outside the spa, but I notice the girls advertising more and more as time goes on and I'll bet that's because guys try it out and then most revert back to seeing girls at the spa (for less $$ and the same result).

I see more and more girls going indie but I just don't think it's sustainable at the rates they're trying to charge. It's a tricky balance, almost like an equation. How many fewer guys paying more am I able to see, and does that at least equal what I'm making at the spa, and is it worth the added hassle of dealing with clients directly and all the administrative BS that's involved? For some the answer will be Yes but for many/most it will end up being No.

The best looking girls who offer at least decent service may be able to make it work but I think you'll see girls will try it and end up right back at the spa.
 
My experience is that with indies you usually just have time for one SOG so you're paying more, usually for more time, but ultimately for the same service. Yeah, you get to talk to the girl and there's some fun in that but in the long run I'd rather have more fun more frequently.

For the girls, it's the opposite. They want to see as few guys as possible for as much money as they can get, so I totally understand their angle. With so many girls trying to go indie I just don't know how sustainable it is for them.

I know some girls who have been successful at it and they love it. Usually more money with much fewer clients and they have total control over who they see. But for most girls, they're not going to be able to sustain enough regulars to make it work. They've gotta be able to establish regulars and to do that they've gotta be really good looking and/or provide REALLY good service. I'm sure there's a surge in the beginning as guys who can afford the higher rates want to see them outside the spa, but I notice the girls advertising more and more as time goes on and I'll bet that's because guys try it out and then most revert back to seeing girls at the spa (for less $$ and the same result).

I see more and more girls going indie but I just don't think it's sustainable at the rates they're trying to charge. It's a tricky balance, almost like an equation. How many fewer guys paying more am I able to see, and does that at least equal what I'm making at the spa, and is it worth the added hassle of dealing with clients directly and all the administrative BS that's involved? For some the answer will be Yes but for many/most it will end up being No.

The best looking girls who offer at least decent service may be able to make it work but I think you'll see girls will try it and end up right back at the spa.
You're right. A lot of girls go Indy and charge exorbitant rates for shitty service then realize they need to go back to the spa.

Take Juliet @ Seduction as an example. Went Indy charging 400 an hour. That didn't last long do now she's back at the spa. And still providing subpar service.
 
My experience is that with indies you usually just have time for one SOG so you're paying more, usually for more time, but ultimately for the same service. Yeah, you get to talk to the girl and there's some fun in that but in the long run I'd rather have more fun more frequently.

For the girls, it's the opposite. They want to see as few guys as possible for as much money as they can get, so I totally understand their angle. With so many girls trying to go indie I just don't know how sustainable it is for them.

I know some girls who have been successful at it and they love it. Usually more money with much fewer clients and they have total control over who they see. But for most girls, they're not going to be able to sustain enough regulars to make it work. They've gotta be able to establish regulars and to do that they've gotta be really good looking and/or provide REALLY good service. I'm sure there's a surge in the beginning as guys who can afford the higher rates want to see them outside the spa, but I notice the girls advertising more and more as time goes on and I'll bet that's because guys try it out and then most revert back to seeing girls at the spa (for less $$ and the same result).

I see more and more girls going indie but I just don't think it's sustainable at the rates they're trying to charge. It's a tricky balance, almost like an equation. How many fewer guys paying more am I able to see, and does that at least equal what I'm making at the spa, and is it worth the added hassle of dealing with clients directly and all the administrative BS that's involved? For some the answer will be Yes but for many/most it will end up being No.

The best looking girls who offer at least decent service may be able to make it work but I think you'll see girls will try it and end up right back at the spa.

This is a great post, and I appreciate everyone's feedback. It's interesting the financial balance they are trying to achieve and whether it's worth it for the clients and the girls. Although it's a lot compared to visiting the spa I'd be willing to spend $400 for a great session. Along those lines I'm wondering:

- I'm guessing the "hour" you pay for is similar to agencies where your before and after showers are both included in your hour, and sometimes even the time it takes you to get their room once they text you to come up? Not to mention girls pressuring you with alarms and cues to be done at a certain point in the session. In those instances an hour with an SP seems pretty similar to 40 minutes at the spa!

- Presumably one benefit of seeing an Indy is there's really no extras charges because pretty much everything at a spa is already included? That said, are they still expecting a tip on top of the $400 or whatever they are charging per hour?

- It seems like a lot of these girls are tweeting that they would prefer not to see clients for only an hour. They prefer multi-hour appointments "to get to know you" etc. Obvious enough why they would want longer appointments at those rates, but hopefully they don't discriminate against clients who 'only' book an hour, the way some girls at the spa give you a terrible session if you don't opt for extras?

- If your girl who used to work at the spa is now working indy, since it's $400 or more per hour, one would presume the session and service is significantly better... is it?

Thanks for your help guys.
 
This is a great post, and I appreciate everyone's feedback. It's interesting the financial balance they are trying to achieve and whether it's worth it for the clients and the girls. Although it's a lot compared to visiting the spa I'd be willing to spend $400 for a great session. Along those lines I'm wondering:

- I'm guessing the "hour" you pay for is similar to agencies where your before and after showers are both included in your hour, and sometimes even the time it takes you to get their room once they text you to come up? Not to mention girls pressuring you with alarms and cues to be done at a certain point in the session. In those instances an hour with an SP seems pretty similar to 40 minutes at the spa!

- Presumably one benefit of seeing an Indy is there's really no extras charges because pretty much everything at a spa is already included? That said, are they still expecting a tip on top of the $400 or whatever they are charging per hour?

- It seems like a lot of these girls are tweeting that they would prefer not to see clients for only an hour. They prefer multi-hour appointments "to get to know you" etc. Obvious enough why they would want longer appointments at those rates, but hopefully they don't discriminate against clients who 'only' book an hour, the way some girls at the spa give you a terrible session if you don't opt for extras?

- If your girl who used to work at the spa is now working indy, since it's $400 or more per hour, one would presume the session and service is significantly better... is it?

Thanks for your help guys.
Indy providers span the whole range of quality. The ones that last and build a steady clientele don’t short you on time, usually entering the location and first shower are not included in your time unless she joins you in the shower or you arrive late or take a very long time in the bathroom getting ready. The good and bad of independents are they are their own boss (if they are bad with time management or scheduling then your experience will be a disaster) on the other hand if you are nice and don’t push boundaries and they have time they will sometimes include extra time for free as they are not fined by an agency or SPA.

In terms of pricing some girls try to discourage shorter sessions with higher rates or don’t take bookings of shorter sessions altogether. For example Jenn Perla used to not take 1 hour bookings until she raised her rates to 500 HR and 1.5 HR booking became $750. She now offers 1 HR but charges $550 to discourage people from booking the shorter session. Some of the girls do charge extra on top of the hourly fee for some items such as BBFS, Rimming, Greek etc. In terms of tipping above the hourly fee you don’t need to do it.

In terms of service the quality ones do provide a better experience then at the SPA case in point Emily Sweets as I think her service as an Indy is better then what you get at Pure/Perla now. As mentioned by other posters a lot of girls tried to go Indy but their service/price wasn’t attractive to people and they ended back at the SPA.
 
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  39. wilson holistic centre:
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  42. ForeverWarden:
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  48. luckywellness:
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