Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

[jimmyd]

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[stripfan]

By lessening the number of COVID factories walking around, the virus will just die off once it can no longer "INFECT" a host to reproduce itself in.

Most of the "covid factories" are fully vaxxed. There is no evidence that the unvaxxed are more likely to get infected. In fact, the latest research shows that there is a 2 week period after vaccination when a person is more susceptible to infection than usual. Read an earlier post about this topic in this thread so you can get up to date.

 

[goodtogo1962]

Brother, not picking a fight with you here but can you please cite the medical journal from whence you got your facts?

By the way, earlier in this thread someone responded to you with an analogy about cancer. Did you read that?

You said "I have never gotten covid therefore covid is not a risk or threat or doesn't exist" something like that, I am paraphrasing. That person responded to you with "I have never gotten cancer therefore cancer doesn't exist and it's not a threat."

Can you have an open mind about the analogy, nobody wants to "force you" to take a vaccine, but you have to be mindful of your role within the scenario you are living. You can do with your body what you want, that is an individual choice but when you take it onto public platforms to spread misinformation you are assuming on social responsability.

Either way, you have to admit that this is not a true vaccine. It is more like a u shot where they tweak things. If it was a vaccine there would not be so many different types and batches.

For the record I have never taken the flu shot, I never needed it. I don't need this shot either, there is way too many variables. Usually if you follow the money then you find the truth. Paying hospitals for making death cause as Covid instead of with Covid when they died of a heart attack or car crash, using variable multipliers to skew numbers, reporting false numbers on news to scare people. There is way too much false information on both sides, but not allowing doctors to question what they know and then removing their license to discredit them is too much.

Then they say you can trust us, not going to happen. If it smells like shit it is usually shit. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is pure lunacy.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

Jimmy the Brat, your obsession with "diction" and your natural ability to troll are controlling your brain now. Find me the post where I told you to get vaccinated. Link or quote or screenshot.

Start backing up your claims with evidence child. So far the only book you have cited in this debate is the fucking dictionary.

Take the vaccine or not, is an individual choice. You have made it a social cause by becoming a spokeperson for antivaxxers within a community that is (possibly) at a higher risk than others of spreading disease due to the intimacy of the settings it operates in.

So, JImmy the Troll, I don't care if you want to take the vaccine or not. Shut the fuck up and put your dictionary away. That is what I want;

That isn't the case, vaccine passport exists for a reason.

 

[funliness]

Most of the "covid factories" are fully vaxxed. There is no evidence that the unvaxxed are more likely to get infected. In fact, the latest research shows that there is a 2 week period after vaccination when a person is more susceptible to infection than usual. Read an earlier post about this topic in this thread so you can get up to date.

Infection is no issue - probability of serious illnesses and hospitalization is the key number . Ad nauseum the evidence in this thread and on any govt site around the world show that hospitalization are being driven by unvaxed. And before any of the idiots writing here say that then numbers are equal today, put it in perspective of the 9:1 ratio of vaxed to unvaxed in Ontario.

 

[Chubbypickle]

Until Omicron offers BBFS nobody is interested.

 

[stripfan]

Infection is no issue - probability of serious illnesses and hospitalization is the key number . Ad nauseum the evidence in this thread and on any govt site around the world show that hospitalization are being driven by unvaxed. And before any of the idiots writing here say that then numbers are equal today, put it in perspective of the 9:1 ratio of vaxed to unvaxed in Ontario.

The key to preventing hospitalization is effective early treatment which up to now has been suppressed by the government. Ivermectin would have been effective for this purpose but was banned. There is a new Pfizer antiviral which is likely to be approved since it's Pfizer that forces governments to get rid of effective competition.

 

[stripfan]

Infection is no issue - probability of serious illnesses and hospitalization is the key number . Ad nauseum the evidence in this thread and on any govt site around the world show that hospitalization are being driven by unvaxed. And before any of the idiots writing here say that then numbers are equal today, put it in perspective of the 9:1 ratio of vaxed to unvaxed in Ontario.

The current hospitalization numbers show that the vaxxed greatly outnumber the unvaxxed. So you can't honestly say it's the unvaxxed who are driving it. I suspect that next week, they will outnumber the unvaxxed in an even greater proportion.

 

[jimmyd]

Jimmy the Brat, your obsession with "diction" and your natural ability to troll are controlling your brain now. Find me the post where I told you to get vaccinated. Link or quote or screenshot.

Start backing up your claims with evidence child. So far the only book you have cited in this debate is the fucking dictionary.

Take the vaccine or not, is an individual choice. You have made it a social cause by becoming a spokeperson for antivaxxers within a community that is (possibly) at a higher risk than others of spreading disease due to the intimacy of the settings it operates in.

So, JImmy the Troll, I don't care if you want to take the vaccine or not. Shut the fuck up and put your dictionary away. That is what I want;

I don’t care what you’re telling me to do. I was referring to society in general. Up until these ironic lockdowns I was shut out of society for not taking a leaky, experimental vaccine. So, yes, I’m being forced to take it.

As for the definition of vaccine, so many people have told you you’re wrong on that one…I’ll leave it there.

But, if you don’t care about the meaning of words, you do you.


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[jimmyd]

Listen JImmy, put away the dictionary and read other kind of books. Stop copying and pasting links to articles you haven't read just because the title benefits you.

Stop taking little screenshots of shit you don't understand;

The only book you come into this debate with, is the dictionary. You declared your diction superior early in this thread, but you should at least equip a thesaurus in your arsenal because you are sounding repetitive with your "it's not what the dictionary says" argument.

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[sy barite]

This is a response I made to Jimmy The Retard, but he ignored it and dismissed it because he was in cruise-controll mode just posting his propaganda.

Fact:
Viruses are not alive. Viruses "become" alive when they "bond" with a compatible host cell. Each virus is compatible with a different kind of cell. For example, we have stomach flu, a virus that affects the digestive tract cells. It can only bind with certain cells in the digestive tract.

COVID is a respiratory virus, it can only bind with certain cells found in our respiratory system such as lungs and throat.

Fact:
You cannot be INFECTED by COVID if you eat it or touch it. You could shove a handful of COVID up Jimmy the Retard's ass, and he wouldn't get (be infected by) COVID.

You could also dip Jimmy the Retard's hand, foot or any other of his tiny appendixes into a bucket of COVID and it wouldn't infect him.

You will only get infected by COVID if the COVID virus gets into your respiratory system AND binds with a host cell.

Do you follow me so far?

Viruses can lay inactive for different periods of time on top of surfaces like door handles, tables etc... They are not "alive" at this point. They are more or less "inactive."

During these periods of inactivity they could travel through the air, or on top of surfaces like your hands. I don't know how long the COVID virus can travel while "inactive" but what I do know is that the majority of viruses sort of "die off" after a certain period of inactivity without reaching a "COMPATIBLE HOST" to "BIND" with.

FACT:

When a virus, in this case COVID binds with a compatible host cell in the respiratory system, it goes into "reproductive" mode. It has only one mission, and that is to replicate itself over and over and over again. This is when you are INFECTED. You are not INFECTED just because you are "carrying" the virus.

A fucking coffee cup can be a "carrier" or any physical object such as a human hand etc.. Just because the coffee cup has COVID viruses all over it is not "INFECTED"

Do you understand the word infected so far?

Once a person is infected they become "COVID FACTORIES" and because of EVERYONE's ability to physically carry the virus, they are also "transporters." It's a COVID factory on wheels. This is why people with a higher likelihood of becoming infected are logically the problem. Does this make sense to you? Each new infection brings forth a new generation of viruses and mutations.

This is why vaccination makes sense, it doesn't stop you from carrying the virus, it prevents you from getting "INFECTED." Granted that this is not 100% which idiots like Jimmy the Retard will quickly point out, but what is the logical alternative? To let everyone get COVID and have people piling up dead on the streets like in the 1920s and the Spanish Flu?

Do you understand the difference between a "carrier" and an "infection." The media is probably wrongfully explaining what the fuck a carrier is, it's just a container. Containers are not a big deal, the problem are the COVID factories.

You don't have to be infected to be a carrier, so yes that means people vaccinated can be carriers too. But you can only become a COVID factory if you are infected.

I would say that given the natural and obvious assumption on how the viruses reproduce, and the higher likelihood of infection that a non-vaccinated person has vs a vaccinated one, the evidence is already there.

By lessening the number of COVID factories walking around, the virus will just die off once it can no longer "INFECT" a host to reproduce itself in.

I take it you are replying to my statement that I'm not for mandating vaccinations.

I understand t can be frustrating when you feel others "aren't getting it", but your tone and use of the bold text can come across as a tad patronizing. The conversation might go better if we all focus less on "winning it" and more on clarifying the situation.

No part of your attempt to explain how the covid virus works serves to clarify how do we weigh the relative risk posed by the Omicron variant against the preventative actions we're implementing. I expect you will agree this is not the first time we've had to deal with this question as a society. In fact, we go through it every year with the flu, where precisely the same points have always been in play. If we look at South Africa's experience, Omicron's risk level seems to be comparable to the seasonal flu but in the case of the latter we never talked of taking the extreme measures that we're putting in place now. I hear a PM talking about how unvaccinated people are misogynist and racist and I have to wonder if the discussion really is evidence based.

 

[jimmyd]

Listen JImmy, put away the dictionary and read other kind of books.

Stop copying and pasting links to articles you haven't read just because the title benefits you.

Stop taking little screenshots of shit you don't understand;

The only book you come into this debate with, is the dictionary. You declared your diction superior early in this thread, but you should at least equip a thesaurus in your arsenal because you are sounding repetitive with your "it's not what the dictionary says" argument.

I love that you flood the thread with the same exact posts, and the fact I can get you to do it.

Such a dope.


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[funliness]

The current hospitalization numbers show that the vaxxed greatly outnumber the unvaxxed. So you can't honestly say it's the unvaxxed who are driving it. I suspect that next week, they will outnumber the unvaxxed in an even greater proportion.

If the ratio is smaller than 9 to 1 vaxed vs unvaxed - as is mad been in Ontario and around the world since forever - it means vax works - your baseless comments will not change this fact -your idiotic ignorance and restating of the same useless comments will not change the numbers - vax works at helping hospitalization illness compared to no vax

 

[jimmyd]

Oh Child, my tone has not changed but you are in the defensive now. Are you sure you are leading this dance?

There’s no need for defence against a nonexistent offence. You’re doing all the damage to yourself.

You’re wrong on this subject. Give up…


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[goodtogo1962]

Follow the money and you get the truth.

US hospitals getting paid to list patients as Covid-19

Hospitals are getting paid more to list patients as Covid-19 and three times as much if the patient goes on a ventilator, according to The Spectator.

accountingweekly.com

Happening all over the world.

 

[stripfan]

The vaxxed are human guinea pigs for Big Pharma, used to test toxicity levels.

Dr. Jane Ruby: Big Pharma companies intentionally deploying toxic batches of COVID-19 vaccine – Brighteon.TV

Dr. Jane Ruby told the public that Big Pharma companies Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson are deploying toxic batches of Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccines. “There’s evidence that these companies are intentionally deploying toxic batches [of COVID-19 vaccine],” Ruby said during the...

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[goodtogo1962]

Ask yourselves this .. why would a doctor stand up and condemn this and lose his licence. Because he knows that it is wrong.... yet nobody wakes up to see the truth. What do they stand to profit from this other than keeping their integrity.

Big pharma, hospitals they profit big time.

 

[stripfan]

If the ratio is smaller than 9 to 1 vaxed vs unvaxed - as is mad been in Ontario and around the world since forever - it means vax works - your baseless comments will not change this fact -your idiotic ignorance and restating of the same useless comments will not change the numbers - vax works at helping hospitalization illness compared to no vax

Those who have been injured by the vaccines should also be counted, since they are also overwhelming hospitals. That's why many healthcare workers have to be forced to get vaxxed.

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[funliness]

Those who have been injured by the vaccines should also be counted, since they are also overwhelming hospitals. That's why many healthcare workers have to be forced to get vaxxed.

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Catholic priest Fr. Frank Unterhalt believes the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic is part of a grand plan to bring about the “Great Reset,” which will usher into power the New World Order. According to Unterhalt, using a pandemic to usher in a tyrannical world government has been planned...

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the pain of lockdowns

Those who have been injured by the vaccines should also be counted, since they are also overwhelming hospitals. That's why many healthcare workers have to be forced to get vaxxed.

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Catholic priest Fr. Frank Unterhalt believes the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic is part of a grand plan to bring about the “Great Reset,” which will usher into power the New World Order. According to Unterhalt, using a pandemic to usher in a tyrannical world government has been planned...

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the percentage of those in hospital because of vaccine ??? Wtf, this is zero or pretty close to it - do you have any numbers on this ? And dont give me ba about how it’s being hidden

there is no data you or anyone else in this thread has produced to show that vax has not helped against even higher hospitalization and even harder lockdowns.

 

[sy barite]

I wasn't directly addressing you, like I said in my first line that was a response to Jimmy the Retard. Jimmy is a troll, a bratty troll. So I would engage with him in a different manner that I would engage with someone like you, who appears to be actually looking to exchange ideas in an attempt to gain understanding in a matter.

I copied and pasted my response to the troll to save time, since within my response you can see the advantages of vaccination versus not. Viruses are manufactured inside the bodies of infected individuals, by lessening the number of infections we are going to eventually leave the virus without a compatible host to bind with. That was your original question, as to the benefits of mandatory vaccinations.

Thanks, I do appreciate the exchange. Ok, I see where you're coming from a bit better.

Not that I want to set myself up as a referee, but I think "Troll" is a harsh description for JimmyD. A troll cares onlyto get a rise out of you, and that may be part of his motivation, but I think he's sincere in his beliefs.

Your argument does outline the benefits of vaccination, but then I never had an argument with that. I think where we differ is in our assessment of the degree of risk we're facing. I haven't seen anything that convinces me the risk warrants dismissing people from their jobs or even keeping them out of restaurants, much less forcibly injecting them. The Omicron variant appears to be an evolution of this virus to the stage where it's more successful at replicating--by not killing off its host population. As I've said before, with such an enormous segment of the population so far uninfected and this being the most contagious version of the virus yet...lockdowns make no sense to me.