What I don't get about Trigger Point Therapy

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hmmm....well, when I use the terminology "trigger point", I don't say the word "therapy" after it. HOWEVER, I do let the client know that I will be using some trigger point techniques on them if they have difficult knots that should be released. Basically, it's dissolving the kinks in the muscle fibers that have built up over time through stationary deep tissue pressure (using either my thumbs or forearms or knuckles or whatever is appopriate for the area I'm trying to release). I can sort of see why some would refer to it as therapy though...one that is incorporated into their overall therapy session.Be well,Jen
 
One of the teachers at my school, a person I respect greatly, practices "Neuromuscular Technique". While it is not exclusively trigger point work, there is a lot of very specific attention paid to trigger points and the anatomy underlying them. This person is as well-versed in anatomy and muscle pathology as anyone I have met, and can find trouble spots with a couple of comments from the client and about 5 seconds of palpation. I went to her for a shoulder issue that had been bothering me for a couple of years. After one treatment, I have been relatively pain free for about three months. It isn't a magic bullet; I spend a fair amount of time attending to posture and stretching; but it seems pretty effective to me.I firmly believe that a particular type of approach, dealing with trigger points and the causes behind them, can be looked at as a therapy unto itself. It is much more specifically "treatment" oriented (can I use that word? ย :o ) than general muscular therapy, imho, and deserves a place in the field of bodywork.Being a relative newbie to the body work world, I like to mix some of the techniques I have learned from this person in with my regular massage treatments, always considering the level of tolerance for pain the person on the table has. I have considered following up my basic schooling with a more extensive study of NMT. Seems to me a substantial number of pain-related issues that are now treated with pain killers and surgery could potentially be mitigated with NMT, avoiding repercussions of the treatment further on in the client's life.
 
Sorry about that, wanted to revise the ogigional thread so as not to accidentally offend anyone with any language that might be considered abrasive. ย What I was getting at was: The great work done by Dr.s Simmons and Trevell provides us with a great map of the trigger points in their very predictable locations throughout the body, and clear diagrams of the areas where they refer. ย These maps are very useful for those who apply their partucular techniques to the trigger points, but, treating the trigger points is not in and of itself the modality used. ย So, when I hear someone say "I do trigger point therapy.", I'm left wondering by what means they do so.
 
Ok, I'm with you there. I too have a very eclectic approach to bodywork. What I'm getting at is, I sometimes see people list "trigger point therapy" as a modality they use. I've always recognized trigger points as thing which are to be treated, and not as the treatment. ย There's a total hack practicing in Las Vegas who tries to represent Body Cousions as a modality. ย Most of us recognize Body Cousions as a great system for boulstering a client during treatment but not as a treatment itself. ย  I guess the question is: What is it that stands alone as "trigger point therapy"?
 
I think it is the folks that study under Bonnie Prudden and only use her techniques for the entire session. ย I, like many others here, don't do just one modality. ย I have been to Tucson for a class in Bonnie Prudden Myotherapy. ย fun stuff. ย mick
 
I too use multiple modalities in one session. Although, if I am doing a session of trigger point, I will mostly be doing trigger point work. ย So I do view it as a modality all it's own. For example, someone with a whiplash injury, trigger points can be found all over the place. ย I can take up an entire session just working on releasing the trigger points and stretching out the areas worked.As compared to a client that might have mild neck pain with only one or two trigger points that are easily released. ย With this session the trigger point work is just adding in as needed. ย  ย 
 
Thanks for all the thought y'all put into your answers to that one, I really appreciate it. Part of the point of asking it like that was in part to honestly learn wethor or not I'd actually missed anentire modality that would be called " trigger point therapy". As a NMT, I address TP's extensively, They are not the sole focus neuromuscular tharapy, but very important to it. And as I suspected, your answers reflected that you adress TP's while using a particular technique or modality. No one came out and said "Trigger Point Therapy is my primary method of practice and it is blah..blah... clear definition. ย  ย  And here's what I was trying to give rise to. ย I often see "Trigger Point" listed among sutsh things as deep tissue, shiatsu, myofascial, and sutch on the menue boards in several clinics, on business cards and brochures. ย And sometimes, especially in clinics,( and especially discount rate clinics who use the newbies fresh out of school) the therapist expected to do the work doesn't really have the tool in his/her tool box. May not be able to define what a TP is or what types or blah...blah...etc. ย We know what they are and discuss them with our clients. ย Experienced clients are farmilliar with the term Trigger Point. ย Friends of experienced recipients haveheard the term TP. ย Sometimes when talking to someone who is new to, or only just interested in recieving massage hear's the term they'll say "Oh yeh, I've heard of that.". ย The point is, that "trigger point" has become kind of a buzz-word, and is sometimes being used inapropriately as a marketing hook. ย  ย My question is are we just o.k. with that? Is it ok that someone might believe that the massage they are paying for includes "Trigger Point" even though the therapist is only vaguely familliar with the concept? ย It happens all the time, what can we do? ย 
 
I took NMT for several weeks as continuing ed at my MT school. ย Several years prior they included some NMT in their core Western Track course.I just finished watching the DVD that came with my Biofreeze/Prossage samples and it had "Massage with the Masters" on it. ย They were all names that we know and hope to(I do at least) train with.Almost all of them had at one point held static pressure for 8-10 seconds on a TP.I think that everyone is learning a bit about it even if not formally. ย TP's aren't a great mystery. ย The finer ability to know all of their referrals different ways to work them I think is all a "TP" class/certification will get you.For example. ย I just missed part I of Whitney Lowes Ortho massage. ย I do intend on going to them someday...now if I only go to I, and II but not three yet can I not utilize what I have learned?...nope....I likely will not do ORtho massage exclusively.....I will incorporate it into a session as I do onw with other techiniques.Robyn
 
All bodyworkers treat trigger points - whether they know it or not. Some only use swedish, others shiatsu, others reflexology....deep tissue, pin & stretch, tuning forks, shaking rattles, chi gong... you name it.People recieve bodywork for pain, or for relaxation, or both.The primary muscular source of pain = trigger points. Toss in scar tissue/bad fascia, and so-called muscle spasms and you have covered nearly all the reasons related to pain that bring clients to us.Usually we find all three (trigger points, ugly fascia and spasms) together in their body and the client says that's IT.In essence - we treat IT. Whatever it is (the itis?) And it is dense, hard, and painful. IT does not feel soft and juicy.Use any term for IT you want to use. Call your technique whatever you want (NMT, Trigger point therpy, active release techniques, orthopedic massage, St. John method of NMT, european method...)What difference does it make?Took my first massage course in 1985 (two weekends of swedish - do you believe that). Nine years later an NMT teacher (One of the first co-teachers with St. John) worked on my neck and shoulders for 1 1/2 hours. ย After I thought: Nice session, but what's the big deal - This NMT is really no different than what I had started doing on people shortly after those two swedish weekends.The point of this is not to say that NMT classes aren't valuable - they are. Nor that I am someone special - that is certainly not the case. It's simply that humans have been working on trigger points long before the word trigger point existed. Long before formal education existed. Again what's the big deal concerning semantics?
 
]"Took my first massage course in 1985 (two weekends of swedish - do you believe that). Nine years later an NMT teacher (One of the first co-teachers with St. John) worked on my neck and shoulders for 1 1/2 hours. ย After I thought: Nice session, but what's the big deal - This NMT is really no different than what I had started doing on people shortly after those two swedish weekends."This just struck me as a really odd statement. If you could not tell a differnce between swedish and this guys opinion of NMT, I dont think he was doing it right or even at all. I am a certified NMT and you can most DEFINATELY tell a difference between that and my swedish. Also, my best friend went to a massage school here where they spend 6 months just on NMT! I wish I had had an opportunity like that. My program was only 3 months of NMT, but still really grateful for that kind of training. Its so hard to find a therapist to tradr with that can get my knots out effectively. They always stop before its gone :'(
 
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    Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐Ÿ’–Angela, ๐Ÿ’–Olivia, ๐Ÿ’–Lisa and ๐Ÿ’–Kitty will be on shift. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  35. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Tuesday June 3, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜, Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ and Connie ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  36. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Elsa, Coco, Eva, Cindy, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, Jenny, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. gold__rose__spa:
    ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿต1536 Warden Avenue Monday,โฃโค Ada,๐Ÿ’‹ a beautiful Korean girl, super fit, slim, but good bust, beautiful, great service+ ๐Ÿต ๐Ÿ’ž ๐Ÿ“ด647 346-8076๐Ÿ“ด
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  41. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  43. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  44. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  45. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  46. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  47. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
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