Energy conundrum

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Hello all,

Hopefully this won't be too contentious a posting.

From my reflexology readings I've gathered that some of the visual clues for Energy excess are:

dry, rough skin, thickening, callouses
peeling of dry skin, flakiness
bunions, corns, verrucas,
changes in bone structure, bone overgrowth,
firm or hard swellings.

Would you expect to see an energy excess in someone who has M.E. I naively expected their symptoms to be the opposite, an energy lack.

ie,
delicate skin, sore that fail to heal
nail loss or weakness
puffiness or sponginess

Two of my test cases with M.E. have the energy excess symptoms rather than energy lack.

Any suggestions?
 
Hi TC thanks for the relaxator link.

I have found that the general foot tonus of clients with M.E. is very depleted (hypo). Ie not much padding on sole and the whole foot very tender. But they do often have areas of wear and tear on the toes etc and the hard crusty skin of the heel. Also the ball of the foot can be red, so as I said before its the tone that is lacking rather than other signs.

Did your clients have depleted tone. They feel as though they are walking on their bones and I usually recommend soft inner soles to help with this and it does seem to bring some relief.

The solar plexus is also very tender/painful and I massage this very gently with good results. I treat very lightly and increase pressure on each visit until their response is good and they find it much less painful. Lots of gentle massage really helps. My clients have been very pleased with their improvement and have become regulars now.

I mostly use baby oil gel now instead of talc, my clients always pick that. I sometimes still use powder if we are likely to be interupted as its less messy. The oil requires a very steady hand and occasionally skids but I have mastered it now, although I think if very hard pressure is required talc is better.

Hope to hear back from you

Iceni
 
Hi Topcat

If they have excessive energy levels then they have been wrongly diagnosed and do not have ME, people with ME have very little energy and will quickly drain your energy if you are not careful ;-)
 
Thanks Iceni,

I thought that they would be showing depleted symptoms, they both have very hard skin, and fissures on the heels, and I get very little response in terms of picking up energy from their feet.

The only points I seemed to get a reaction from are the kidneys, and hypothalamus, everything else feels lifeless.

Interestingly, one of my clients missed her period by two weeks, got cystitus, and tonsilitis all in one go. Following her last treatment, the cystitis is clearing up, but I think she ought to see the doctor about the tonsilitis, as it can get quite serious (from my own experience, they almost meet in the middle when I get it).

Paul, tell me more, I do feel a bit drained afterwards, can you shed more light please.
 
Hi TC

The first time I experienced this must have been about 13 years ago, I was treating an old lady who had been bedridden for 2 years and had ME for 25 years.

The first treatment her I gave her I finished by giving her a bit of energy to see if that would help which it obviously did, now when I returned the next week we lifted her onto the couch and as soon as I laid hands on her it felt like someone had pulled the plug and completely drained me and in stead of it being the beginning of the day it felt like I had had a hard day and was ready for bed.

I use a barrier these days and allow through as much as I am prepared to give :-)
 
I never feel drained after treating any clients to be honest. This shouldn't happen as you should not be giving out your own energy.

Re the oil for the feet? Your fingers/thumbs shouldn't need to be controlled so much to stop skid. You are using the wrong oil and you will get serious injuries to your hands if you continue to do it. Look around for a cream that absorbs well during the initial massage and then has sunk in by the time you do the treatment. Your thumbs should not skid and if you try to control that you are putting excess pressure on your own joints. The client may feel great - you won't! Also, baby oil is petroleum based and we were taught in aromatherapy that it isn't a good product to use. You can get good creams from reflexology and massage suppliers. Good luck!
 
Hi Candie,

I use e45 cream, it absorbs well, and is a little "sticky", so doesnt tend to slip, any comment on it? (I think it contains lanolin though!)

thx

edit: I've just read the other ingredients, its petroleum based too. [&:]
 
Hi Candie

I was not giving anything at the time, I had just placed my hands on her and it was sucked out of me before I had time to register what was going on :-)
 
Hi Topcat, I tried it but found it way too greasy. I have got one I bought in a cheapie shop that is fantastic, but of course, can't get it anymore. Am currently using a Boots one that turns to fine powder, alright but not great. Tried oil at college, but too slippy. I might try the one that you can get from the AOR next, but I keep looking and trying them.
 
i dont use oil, cream or talc when doing a reflex treatment. i use a pedicure lotion at the end for the massage/ lymph drainage that i do.

i dont find i have a problem with pulling or tugging.
 
I had a strange experience with a lady with ms.
I made sure the room was nice and warm, she had a blanket etc did the first foot this was fine when i got to the other the room went icy cold my hands were freezing cold i had to apologise to her ....... but she said all she could feel was heat and that my hands were burning hot.
I felt fine afterwards so did she in fact in her words she said she felt energised.
Any one with similar experiences?
 
Hi folks

It is strange that you should say about being drained of energy Paul, I felt very much like this after doing Reiki but not reflexology.

I was advised by my master to protect myself and let the energy travel through me and not from me. Were you doing reflexology or reiki when you had the problem with the m.e. client.

As to the oil, I have tried various lubricants and nothing at all, but still find the oil gel best. I have got some massage cream but it tends to get 'bobbly' after a while.

I find I have to keep drying (polishing) the skin when using nothing.

Iceni
 
Hi Icena

I was preparing to start a holistic full body massage which included reflexology but this happened as soon as I had laid hands on her to extend my awareness into her to commence the treatment, I had given her a blast of the universal energy on the first treatment but had not got myself prepared to do that, so she obviously realised that the energy was what she was lacking and unfortunately instead of asking me she just took my life force in stead :-) took me a while to get energised again.

I treat ME either with energy healing or a combination of a therapeutic full body to get the physical side kicked in and an energy treatment these days, the treatments are very effective and the effects can be seen working after a couple of treatments with most people.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  43. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  44. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  50. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
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